UPS Strike prediction

[Thebrownblob]

If you can get the fat guys to back you up...

What about a skinny guy with a fat mouth?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

What about a skinny guy with a fat mouth?

Sounds good.

 

[Marinedad]

The World Socialist Website. I’m not a fan of commies. I don’t like that the TDU is backed by commies. I don’t like that unions have their noses so far up the democrat parties rear end they think they have a free pass to strike. I don’t like that the Union has spilt so much bad blood between the members and their leadership that they’re trying to gin up a fight to the death battle with the company to gain back trust and belief that they care about us. I’ll reiterate again, there’s nothing to strike about. We make 50% more than everyone else that does the same job at different companies. We have a superior benefits package. We have recession (which is coming) proof employment. We got a good COLA raise last year. This job has been so dumbed down and automated they could hand a DIAD 6 to anyone off the street and they’d have this job down in a week. I’m very certain if a strike vote was authorized 80% of the workforce, deep down, would cross the line if the other 20% almost all old timers wouldn’t smash their windshields for the rest of their careers. The workforce is so apathetic to the union, at least where I’m at. I haven’t seen a union hall member at my building in months. There’s no advertisements. They’re not outside in the parking lot talking to members. I doubt 99% of the guys could tell you the local number or where the hall is located. I just don’t see how they could ask people to stop working and ruin their finances when there’s such record low participation and almost non existent outreach.

I agree on not striking but not on a lot of the other things that you said. First we make more than other people who do similar jobs, not the same job as we do for other companies and we deserve every dollar that we make. Second, the job has been dummy downed from when I started 30 years ago but it is still a job that is not for everyone. It takes a certain kind of person to succeed as a delivery driver for UPS. Lastly, our benefits are great compared to most companies but, at least in my local our healthcare is nowhere near what it was when it was a company plan as opposed to a union plan.
All that being said I definitely don’t want a strike and feel very fortunate to have worked for this company for the last 30 years. Don’t sell it short, we work harder and have more bill crap thrown at us than any other drivers at other delivery companies.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Article 67

Section 3

Any employee working in a higher pay classification for any part of the day shall receive the higher rate of pay for the entire day.

Art 40 sets the pay rate for air drivers. Art 40 supersedes all other articles in the contract.

 

[Pullman Brown]

I believe this post. We had older preloaders who filled in driving and were able to clear over 100k. Remember as soon as they touched a ground box delivery they got paid drivers rate for the whole day. Every week they maxed out at 60. Throw in time bonuses and the math adds up.

They are not working now that much. I did see the check receipt.

Until you retire and that pension doesn’t equal all those hours you were getting. -I know some locals are different but I doubt it’s a lot.

 

[Pullman Brown]

Some of these guys will even try to get you fired...

 

[Trucker Clock]

Art 40 sets the pay rate for air drivers. Art 40 supersedes all other articles in the contract.

Nope.

Once you pick up or deliver a ground package, you are now working as a package driver, not an air driver, eligible for package pay rate. Supplemental language now applies.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Nope.

Once you pick up or deliver a ground package, you are now working as a package driver, not an air driver, eligible for package pay rate. Supplemental language now applies.

The Company used to pay PT air drivers top ground rate for the day regardless of how much time was actually spent delivering or picking up ground. Our Union Local cut a deal at some point and now we only get paid for time spent working ground. Art 40 Sec 1 paragraph 7 only says the company will pay top ground driver rate when there is a violation.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Nope.

Once you pick up or deliver a ground package, you are now working as a package driver, not an air driver, eligible for package pay rate. Supplemental language now applies.

Art 40 in the preamble states it supersedes supplement, riders, and addenda's.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Art 40 in the preamble states it supersedes supplement, riders, and addenda's.

You are not handling exception ground packages when they send you out with 50 stops.

Article 40 says you get the difference in pay. But for the day, or just the time you handled the ground packages?

This is where the Supplement comes into play if it is covered. And it is covered in the New England Supplement.

 

[PT Car Washer]

You are not handling exception ground packages when they send you out with 50 stops.

You would rather have a sup deliver the packages?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Article 40 says you get the difference in pay. But for the day, or just the time you handled the ground packages?

Doesn't say.

 

[PT Car Washer]

This is where the Supplement comes into play if it is covered. And it is covered in the New England Supplement.

Art 40 supersedes the New England Supplement.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

This is a solid discussion

 

[Trucker Clock]

You would rather have a sup deliver the packages?

Never said that.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Art 40 supersedes the New England Supplement.

Article 40 is mute on the subject of duration of the difference in pay.

The Sipplement deals with duration. No language in Article 40 to supercede duration.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Art 40 sets the pay rate for air drivers. Art 40 supersedes all other articles in the contract.

What does article 40 read regarding working out of classification?

 

[PT Car Washer]

What does article 40 read regarding working out of classification?

In the preamble it says Art 40 supersedes all other Articles in the contract including supplements.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Article 40 is mute on the subject of duration of the difference in pay.

The Sipplement deals with duration. No language in Article 40 to supercede duration.

No such language in our sipplement.

 

[Trucker Clock]

No such language in our sipplement.

Then that’s a different story. Sounds like your local agreement is valid.