Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[Coldworld]

Question about outside hire progression and new contract. I reached seniority in May 2017, and I’m also in the southern region. On road supervisor has said my progression is going to 3 years, anyone know if there’s any truth to that? Also, will I receive the GWI on top of the progression increase each year?

I wouldn’t believe ANYTHING an on road sup would say...with the way some of these guys talk you’d think they were sitting in the boardroom in Atlanta with the CEO

 

[Coldworld]

I've had it for a long time

I’m glad..... better to be prepared and not need it than the other way around..

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I’m glad..... better to be prepared and not need it than the other way around..

And if I don't need it. It's a hooker retirement fund.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I have my own strike fund

Me too!!!! SUGA MAMA!!!!

 

[Coldworld]

And if I don't need it. It's a hooker retirement fund.

Please... your wife would pimp slap your ass into next year if she found out you did that...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Please... your wife would pimp slap your ass into next year if she found out you did that...

Just trying to give her a break. Mrs Cold has been holding out.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Just trying to give her a break. Mrs Cold has been holding out.

Would you say that Mrs. Cold went.......frigid...???

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Would you say that Mrs. Cold went.......frigid...???

I ran out of nickels for the slot machine

 

[Coldworld]

Just trying to give her a break. Mrs Cold has been holding out.

Good good

 

[Coldworld]

Would you say that Mrs. Cold went.......frigid...???

Frigid sup?? Oh hell no she hates mgt scrubs more than me...

 

[India]

Ground driver progression stays the same in the current Tentative Agreement, but if passes as is, drivers in progression will get a sizable bump in pay.

Will I still get the GWI on top of progression. For example, my current placement in the progression schedule would put me at $23, with GWI it would be $23.70. Just wondering which way it will go.

Also, just to mention, I was a part time supervisor from 2013-2017. Does that effect the progression term at all? I find it weird that they calculate my seniority for allotted vacation time based upon my hire date in 2013, vs progression starting in 2017.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Will I still get the GWI on top of progression. For example, my current placement in the progression schedule would put me at $23, with GWI it would be $23.70. Just wondering which way it will go.

Also, just to mention, I was a part time supervisor from 2013-2017. Does that effect the progression term at all? I find it weird that they calculate my seniority for allotted vacation time based upon my hire date in 2013, vs progression starting in 2017.

I'm fairly certain you will not be getting the gwi on top of progression. Vacation time is figured based on your hire date, but I don't know how it works going from management to full time ground. From part time insider to full time they do some sort of split on your years, but that may be a local or regional issue, so you'll have to talk to a steward to get the low down.

And yes, being a sup before going ground driving extends progression by a year for every time you got caught doing bargaining unit work. I bet you're sorry now. just kidding...

 

[SameRightsForAll]

Scare tactics. Vote no and send them back to the table. There will be no strike. Although Tony wants a strike, UPS and the teamsters do not want a strike.

Just because nobody "wants" a strike doesn't mean they aren't ready and willing right now today to do it.

 

[DeadOnArrival]

I don't have an opinion. The master contract is okay for me personally, I would vote yes technically speaking, but that isn't good for all.

To hell with the master, this company is shanking us out of proper raises and catch up pay, and then some. The teamsters have been bent over at the table. I've nothing better to do but strike in the winter with a beer in my hand (actually I hate beer, I'll have a cocktail) and sit in my lawn chair everyday.

These greedy 'marxist-at best' corporate wigs can suck it.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

To hell with the master, this company is shanking us out of proper raises and catch up pay, and then some. The teamsters have been bent over at the table. I've nothing better to do but strike in the winter with a beer in my hand (actually I hate beer, I'll have a cocktail) and sit in my lawn chair everyday.

These greedy 'marxist-at best' corporate wigs can suck it.

The raises are barely adequate.
My main gripe is the company using technology to reprimand hourlies other than drivers. That and the implementation of 22.4 drivers, and the pay rate below full-time package car drivers. IF the contract shored up the technology and discipline and gave 22.4 drivers top package car rate, I'd probably vote yes.
I couldn't care less about the issues for part-timers such as catch up raises, weekly show-up bonuses and what not.

 

[1989]

I have my own strike fund

I’ve got 22 weeks worth of cash, but I would hardly call that a strike fund. I can’t live off that for 2+ years.

 

[Coldworld]

I’ve got 22 weeks worth of cash, but I would hardly call that a strike fund. I can’t live off that for 2+ years.

If we are going to be on strike for 2 years then we all will be doomed...

 

[1989]

If we are going to be on strike for 2 years then we all will be doomed...

It will affect everyone differently. Some could feel it 2 years down the road. Some indefinitely. I strike is never over the day some people go back to work.

 

[DELACROIX]

One must make their own conclusions. But what you wrote here is very misleading and flat out wrong. The analysis is not done ALL UPS REVENUE/PROFITS. Only on the revenue/profits that teamsters bring in.

Local 174 was a strong supporter of Ron Carey. Some of the same people who negotiated this contract, also negotiated in 1997.

Some locals have their own strike fund and used it in 1997. Local 174 had a $300 stike benefit.

I also did not lose health coverage, because the strike did not last long enough. But I would have if it lasted long enough.

I get were your are coming from..No degree in economics here.

I did go back to their profit projections and the statistics did include:

International, Freight and Package...With Package being the largest.

International would be the only one that would not be under a collective bargaining agreement (except the Pilots and Mechanics)..Without the Teamster workforce the whole ball of wax will collapse, remember the Pilots and Mechanics honored our picket lines in "97"...

Again I have to remind you that UPS's pension liabilities are lessening by ever year, they did well with their pension investments last year (14.5%), they now only have a 21% annual tax payment and they put in 5 Billion dollars at the beginning of this year into their pension funds, 3 Billion more than they did the previous year.

Their forwarding statements to investors clearly spells out a cheery future on their profit margins. The doom and gloom that Jamie is quoting on her first couple of videos is not conforming to the UPS's financial experts are saying?

 

[tUCKsEDO]

Folks ,

We , the people , the backbone,heart eat and spirit of this beloved corporation are being sold down river , very , very cheap . We can do so much better than what is being shoved down our throats or up our rear ends . What our Teamster negotiation committee members are tentatively agreeing to is so beneath what we deserve . Let's start with the wages , yes we are already paid nicely but we "earn" it , dont we !!! . What is $4.15 over 5 years , roughly 83 cents a year . What happened to the days of $1.00 , $1.25 , hell 95 cent raises ? U.P.S. recieved such a nice tax cut , from 35% to 21% , and this is the best they can do ? , "NO" !!! . They are forecasted to net 6 , six , BILLION dollar profit this year alone (then add newly added tax cuts ) . We live in the most prosperous nation in the world , our economy is exploding . I'm not getting into politics ,however we have a "BILLION" dollar President , a businessman at that . Why should we vote "NO" is a no brainer ? It's our time , we deserve more , the economy is ripe, tax cuts on businesses , labor shortages, CDL driver shortage , we control the shipping industry all adds up to "it's there for the taking " . This might be our last time in a while to capitalize on all that is front of us . The most that can happen if we fail to vote "no" is we move ahead with this subpar contract , BUT if we were to overwhelmingly vote "NO" we send our representatives back to the table with so much more to gain , folks U.P.S. will bend , but we have to ask for it . We have to continue to engage our fellow coworkers, we have to use all tools available such as SOCIAL MEDIA , flyers , text , emails , parking lot meetings , Union hall meetings. We can do this folks , dont settle for this low ball offer , when we have so much more to gain at such a fruitful time . A vote "NO" does not mean we will go on strike , they still have til July 31st to wrap this up , but if a yes vote now will only get you what is being offered , and our representatives get to go back to playing golf and fancy dinners and vacays. Let's make them work for us , is that to much to ask ?? Remember this , what might be a nice contract for a senior feeder driver looking forward to retirement in a couple years , might look like crap to a new hire part time who is paying his dues , same thing for a combo employee and a package car driver . All that glitters , is not gold . Lastly , I will leave you with this , U.P.S. wants to succeed, so do you , corporate wants the numbers to keep going up , we want our bank accounts to keep thriving , our time with our families going up . Right now what is being offered is only a scratching of the surface of what we could have . And "NO" , I do not want a strike , that's why we send them back to the table to negotiate, but if we dont come together you will never no what you could have had . Unity folks , we can do this !!!!
"VOTE NO "

What percentage of a 'no' vote is needed to renegotiate?