Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[BlackCat]

Dude you are clueless. Go run your conspiracy theories by a steward. I have gotten so many people out of discipline with this article. Only when it’s observed is there any issues.

So I can receive the same deceptive answers like the ones you have given?

 

[BlackCat]

Only when it’s observed is there any issues.

How many times do I have to say that I agree with this?

 

[Time for change]

Where's @TonyQ been?

He gave up on this turd burger passing.

 

[Over disciplined0123]

So your voting no to keep weekend work the same for RPCD's and the company will still continue to use current the two tier drivers that already exist even though they make less than a 22.4.

Seriously what are you expecting to gain from a no vote that is better that your current economic package?

Expecting to gain respect and show UPS and corporate America that thier workers who actually most have gained them tremendous volume by filling out sales leads and making this company the profitable giant that it is ,and demanding that they will see how we as teamsters all come together and stand up for what we deserve .... This is not a easy job and it will shed years off your life almost like being a professional athlete now a days with the time standards decreasing and the stops per car increasing a average of 40 stops per car I don’t get how the drivers are going out twice as heavy as 5 years ago and justifying a pay cut for a 6 billion dollar profitable company makes any sense at all. Mabey if they were hurting and the economy was bad . But we know that isn’t the case

 

[LagunaBrown]

So I can receive the same deceptive answers like the ones you have given?

I have been pretty clear on it. Trust me there is other language that is worth our time more than this. All the outs from this contract still apply.

 

[542thruNthru]

It clear as day to me. I been defending that language for over 13 years. Nothing will change. It was meant for drivers and now it’s clarified. You guys just can’t let it go because your too damn paranoid.

I agree it was meant for drivers. That's what I said. Still never needed to be changed to Drivers instead of employees. That's all I'm saying.

 

[BlackCat]

I have been pretty clear on it.

Now that is certainly open to interpretation.

 

[Daf]

That language got better. What are you talking about?

Switched to drivers only. Not all employees.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Expecting to gain respect and show UPS and corporate America that thier workers who actually most have gained them tremendous volume by filling out sales leads and making this company the profitable giant that it is ,and demanding that they will see how we as teamsters all come together and stand up for what we deserve .... This is not a easy job and it will shed years off your life almost like being a professional athlete now a days with the time standards decreasing and the stops per car increasing a average of 40 stops per car I don’t get how the drivers are going out twice as heavy as 5 years ago and justifying a pay cut for a 6 billion dollar profitable company makes any sense at all. Mabey if they were hurting and the economy was bad . But we know that isn’t the case

You cant believe what they say any day. Nope.

 

[Daf]

Show me language that makes it better.

I can show you non-existent language that says it is not.

Yes it does. Who the hell are you listening to for your information. Employee is everyone. Driver is only drivers. The intent of the language has always been about drivers and GPS. Do hub workers have GPS on them? Any kind of discipline you are worried about in the hub must be observed. There is also language in that Article regarding the companies BS tactics where they used to terminate members for so called dishonesty (like not wearing a seat belt) is now clearly defined as methods violations and must follow progressive discipline. These are way better. Pick your battles please.

The Language is not limited to just gps. I think what bothers me is that somebody thought that it was very important to change that word or it would not have been brought up in negotiations. That one word MAY affect a lot of employees. I hope you are right in not being concerned, but I do NOT trust Ups management to not use it against us.

 

[Slug Life]

Congratulations you noticed a line through a word and completely miss interpreted the contract language. Now the vote no clown car has arrived to pass out emoji charms to celebrate your achievement!

Hoffa is that you rating it funny?

 

[Slug Life]

You are obviously clueless and a hero to the vote no movement. This is what happens when people that don’t know try to interpret a contract.

Spoken from a 10th Dan Black Belt in not knowing what he says.

 

[Slug Life]

I find it funny how scared Local 886 was. They called out The Boston Bully and tried to claim it was a political ploy for the vote No movement.
News flash 886 you sucked and failed your members by selling out. Don’t be mad at the future of OZ!!!
Again I urge all 886 members vote out Hoffa next go around. Enough consessions already...

 

[Mooseknuckle]

I find it funny how scared Local 886 was. They called out The Boston Bully and tried to claim it was a political ploy for the vote No movement.
News flash 886 you sucked and failed your members by selling out. Don’t be mad at the future of OZ!!!
Again I urge all 886 members vote out Hoffa next go around. Enough consessions already...

From what I'm hearing all locals claiming "It's politically motivated, don't believe the lies" That's all they got.
I guess when you surround yourself only with people that agree with you, you will lose your perspective. They don't know what the members want. They don't listen to any.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

From what I'm hearing all locals claiming "It's politically motivated, don't believe the lies" That's all they got.
I guess when you surround yourself only with people that agree with you, you will lose your perspective. They don't know what the members want. They don't listen to any.

They tell the members what the members want. If you disagree, you must be a political agent of TDU.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

They don't know what the members want. They don't listen to any.

They listened to these guys ?

 

[Wontmake9.5]

We had a local Sunday and our union is telling us to vote no.

 

[Over disciplined0123]

The Language is not limited to just gps. I think what bothers me is that somebody thought that it was very important to change that word or it would not have been brought up in negotiations. That one word MAY affect a lot of employees. I hope you are right in not being concerned, but I do NOT trust Ups management to not use it against us.

Ups always uses vague language to thier benefit,never ours

 

[1989]

That's a grey area, I've heard different inerpretations. Either way, at 4 years, there is no interpretation, its straight forward.

Here all cover drivers are covered at day 31. All are scheduled to work everyday and all are moved around my management.

 

[KOG72]

They listened to these guys ?

Unbelievable...is this a real photo???