Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

LagunaBrown

Well-Known Member
What is the name of those drivers positions? TCD?
Again you're a liar.
I don’t care what they are called it’s a two tier driver. You the liar trying to hide it. They are everywhere, here they are called cover drivers and work year round. It’s obvious your full of :censored2:. You will do anything for a no vote.
 

Smashmouth

Well-Known Member
What is the name of those drivers positions? TCD?
Again you're a liar.

Laguna is wrong that TCD are a second tier drivers. They are a part time position with a path to full time. They only get paid 85% top pay yes, but they get to keep that pay rate after becoming a RPCD. If they get 156 reports in a year, the company has to add a new RPCD. They dont have to drive everyday if they dont want to. But I still dont like TCD, simply because UPS abuses the language and uses them way more then is allowed contactually.
So why would anyone want to allow 22.4s, that you know UPS are going to be abused and used in ways not intended by the new language. With 22.4s you have essentially created another hurdle for part timers. Because there are still going to be TCDs...still have to cover vacations, sicknesses, work comp,call ins, not only for RPCDs but for 22.4s as well. So TCDs will work weekends sometimes. And after paying your dues as a part timer, and then as a TCD, now you will have the opportunity to get FU#@ED even more as a 22.4 until a RPCD job opens. Since 22.4s and RPCD are both full time positions, the only path to driving for a TCD will be through 22.4.
 

LagunaBrown

Well-Known Member
Laguna is wrong that TCD are a second tier drivers. They are a part time position with a path to full time. They only get paid 85% top pay yes, but they get to keep that pay rate after becoming a RPCD. If they get 156 reports in a year, the company has to add a new RPCD. They dont have to drive everyday if they dont want to. But I still dont like TCD, simply because UPS abuses the language and uses them way more then is allowed contactually.
So why would anyone want to allow 22.4s, that you know UPS are going to be abused and used in ways not intended by the new language. With 22.4s you have essentially created another hurdle for part timers. Because there are still going to be TCDs...still have to cover vacations, sicknesses, work comp,call ins, not only for RPCDs but for 22.4s as well. So TCDs will work weekends sometimes. And after paying your dues as a part timer, and then as a TCD, now you will have the opportunity to get :censored2:#@ED even more as a 22.4 until a RPCD job opens. Since 22.4s and RPCD are both full time positions, the only path to driving for a TCD will be through 22.4.
OMG! You already have a driver that gets 85% of top rate. That is a two tier/hybrid driver and your cool with it but not a 22.4. Your a hypocrite and clueless. Thank you for proving my point most that vote no people don’t know :censored2:.
 
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Over70irregs

Well-Known Member
East coast will come out and vote it down. What concerns me is as you go out west, unionism starts dying out. Most of the West’s best union people are on this board. The rest, just clueless.
There are No’s down South and out West sir..... Remember supplements are a factor in all of this I have learned.
 

BuckyBadger

Well-Known Member
I'm voting no. I've not nothing to lose. I want 15/hr for pre-load to start and insurance after six months. Working here for a year PLUS three months with peak, and working for essentially $11/hr, I can do that anywhere. Not planning to drive.

This peak will be a disaster. With the economy as good as it is, good luck finding 50+ new hires for peak. It's not happening. This is the year it all ends in disaster.
 

LagunaBrown

Well-Known Member
What is the name of those drivers positions? TCD?
Again you're a liar.

Laguna is wrong that TCD are a second tier drivers. They are a part time position with a path to full time. They only get paid 85% top pay yes, but they get to keep that pay rate after becoming a RPCD. If they get 156 reports in a year, the company has to add a new RPCD. They dont have to drive everyday if they dont want to. But I still dont like TCD, simply because UPS abuses the language and uses them way more then is allowed contactually.
So why would anyone want to allow 22.4s, that you know UPS are going to be abused and used in ways not intended by the new language. With 22.4s you have essentially created another hurdle for part timers. Because there are still going to be TCDs...still have to cover vacations, sicknesses, work comp,call ins, not only for RPCDs but for 22.4s as well. So TCDs will work weekends sometimes. And after paying your dues as a part timer, and then as a TCD, now you will have the opportunity to get :censored2:#@ED even more as a 22.4 until a RPCD job opens. Since 22.4s and RPCD are both full time positions, the only path to driving for a TCD will be through 22.4.
Read this and It’s obvious everything I said is true. No wonder the Facebook vote no page censors their posts. You guys are an embarrassment for hiding things from the members and calling them names when they are telling the truth. You guys do t even know what a two tier/hybrid driver is!
 
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BlackCat

Well-Known Member
Read this and It’s obvious everything I said is true. No wonder the Facebook vote no page censors their posts. You guys are an embarrassment for hiding things from the members and calling them names when they are telling the truth.

I find it interesting that < 5 people actually agree with any of your drivel.
 

LagunaBrown

Well-Known Member
I'm voting no. I've not nothing to lose. I want 15/hr for pre-load to start and insurance after six months. Working here for a year PLUS three months with peak, and working for essentially $11/hr, I can do that anywhere. Not planning to drive.

This peak will be a disaster. With the economy as good as it is, good luck finding 50+ new hires for peak. It's not happening. This is the year it all ends in disaster.
Starting pay will always be low so the money goes to the premium jobs. When you get seniority you get the money. As for healthcare it used to be 6 months but anyone that knocked up their girlfriend would get married and go work for UPS to pay for the birth then quit. Long story short it will not be lower than 9 months. Sorry.
 
I'm voting no. I've not nothing to lose. I want 15/hr for pre-load to start and insurance after six months. Working here for a year PLUS three months with peak, and working for essentially $11/hr, I can do that anywhere. Not planning to drive.

This peak will be a disaster. With the economy as good as it is, good luck finding 50+ new hires for peak. It's not happening. This is the year it all ends in disaster.
Not many part time jobs offer health insurance and a pension. Gotta think long term.
 

Foamer Pyle

Well-Known Member
Wasn’t really calling you a name , bye Felicia is from the movie Friday.
Maybe you weren’t, but you were being condescending. Been here 29 years, and just when i think it can’t get worse, it does. I can’t stand the way in see management talk to employees. The last guy at my center that just retired, the last 5 months they made this job hell for him. He was a decent guy, hard working, and they slammed him, and just overall treated him like crap.
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
No, that's unionism, who's roots are completely embedded in socialist doctrine.

The "life choice" they made was to join hands with their brothers and sister to bargain collectively with a Fortune 500 company.

Because in the end, we can't all be doctors, lawyers, stock brokers, or even Big Union Guys?

Don't beliitle us for being the backbone of this Company, instead honor us (all of us) with the concession--free contract we deserve.


With all sincerity....

How are you not an elected official of your Local ?



-Bug-
 

Foamer Pyle

Well-Known Member
Not many part time jobs offer health insurance and a pension. Gotta think long term.
Not very many low pay jobs do, but you could get any local city job, and would have everything you mentioned. Meter readers get everything we do. I know mail people that make over $100k a year, and that job is cake compared to what we do, and you get to throw a temper tantrum when a car or UPS truck is parked in front of a mailbox. They hate having to get out of their seat. The economy is good, and there are job vacancy’s all over the place.
 
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