Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[LagunaBrown]

You may be a teamster by name, but you will never be one of US.

You right I’m not a hypocrite, vote no cheerleader, internet bully.

 

[Foamer Pyle]

So over the last 20 years you never said but right now all of the sudden you decided two tier drivers are bad. Hmmmm so tell me Vince they had a cheaper driver all those years did they ever steal your overtime or get you laid off on Mondays?

Cover drivers are different. At my center they use them when too many people call in sick, or like Amazon Prime day. They aren’t used to reduce Full time drivers overtime, ever. They also would never reduce the volume on a Monday, and cause routes to be cut on Monday. I personally don’t have a problem with cover drivers. We have about 5 of them, and i understand that UPS cannot control people calling in sick, so they have to have staff available to do a route, in a pinch. This is much different than a full-time position, doing the same work for half the pay, and no protection.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Your a tool. We are all Teamsters. Once again get over it.

Your a fool. Your unionism parallels Upstate's. Come east and we'll inflate the rat to commemorate your teamster tendencies.
Weren't you the steward that snitched to management about drivers off area breaks? Tell us about the times you suppressed valid grievances to keep your job.
Are you voting yes because you still owe management for sparing your job? Fess up boy.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

You may be a teamster by name, but you will never be one of US.

Our teamster patches have horses on it but his has pu s s ies no doubt.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Cover drivers are different. At my center they use them when too many people call in sick, or like Amazon Prime day. They aren’t used to reduce Full time drivers overtime, ever. They also would never reduce the volume on a Monday, and cause routes to be cut on Monday. I personally don’t have a problem with cover drivers. We have about 5 of them, and i understand that UPS cannot control people calling in sick, so they have to have staff available to do a route, in a pinch. This is much different than a full-time position, doing the same work for half the pay, and no protection.

Your cover drivers get paid less, have no 9.5 rights and only get a part time pension but that is ok? So you would rather keep that than them getting full time pension contributions?

 

[Smashmouth]

How are you saying that a driver making 85% of a RPCD is not a two tier driver and then calling me a liar. Holy cow

Because they arent FULL TIME...they can tell UPS to PISS OFF at any time, they arent handcuffed to it 24/7 365 like we are.

 

[BlackCat]

You right I’m not a hypocrite, vote no cheerleader, internet bully.

Just a two-faced, conniving, IBT propaganda pusher.

 

[PT Car Washer]

same work for half the pay, and no protection

You mean like a FT driver still in progression.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Your a fool. Your unionism parallels Upstate's. Come east and we'll inflate the rat to commemorate your teamster tendencies.
Weren't you the steward that snitched to management about drivers off area breaks? Tell us about the times you suppressed valid grievances to keep your job.
Are you voting yes because you still owe management for sparing your job? Fess up boy.

Really you have to lie like that? You must really be mad.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Our teamster patches have horses on it but his has pu s s ies no doubt.

Your bully tactics are amazing and comical.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Really you have to lie like that? You must really be mad.

Exposing the real reason you're pushing a yes vote. Tell everyone about your job.

 

[Smashmouth]

How are you saying that a driver making 85% of a RPCD is not a two tier driver and then calling me a liar. Holy cow

And they get to carry that 85% over with them and dont have to start progression at the bottom like a new hire RPCD......but under the LagunaBrown contract, theyll have to go from TCD to 22.4. DUMB!

 

[LagunaBrown]

Because they arent FULL TIME...they can tell UPS to PISS OFF at any time, they arent handcuffed to it 24/7 365 like we are.

Man you just don’t get it do you. That is a two tier hybrid position. It is a cheaper driver period.

 

[Smashmouth]

Your bully tactics are amazing and comical.

So, answer me this, do you like TCD language?

 

[LagunaBrown]

And they get to carry that 85% over with them and dont have to start progression at the bottom like a new hire RPCD......but under the LagunaBrown contract, theyll have to go from TCD to 22.4. DUMB!

Full time pension, healthcare contributions and their progression goes toward the RPCD. There will be no shortage of guys taking that job and you know it.

 

[Smashmouth]

Man you just don’t get it do you. That is a two tier hybrid position. It is a cheaper driver period.

Your the one that doesnt get it, even if i agreed with you that it was a two tier system(which i dont), doesnt mean i want them to add a third tier! Which apparently youre cool with!!

 

[BuckyBadger]

Our part timers will get about $70,000 contributed to their pension over the 5 year contract. Every region is different. Ask your steward or business agent.

I did. The answer is zero. Zero.

So, no pension, and no $15/hr. What's in it for part timers who want/need to stay part time?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

So, answer me this, do you like TCD language?

That's a question he avoids because the answer is obvious to us that voted it down to begin with years ago. He prob got more money in his pension so he voted it in for his own base gain.

Now he owes management for his job. He's a puppet. A lying one.

 

[BuckyBadger]

I'm not concerned with 22.4 No one's going to take them...no one's bidding on the full time driver positions as it is here....

 

[Smashmouth]

Full time pension, healthcare contributions and their progression goes toward the RPCD. There will be no shortage of guys taking that job and you know it.

So now instead of two or three years as the company whipping boy TCD, youre five or six years as the whipping boy, with a couple years of pension credit. WHOOPIE!...How many of those guys are gonna stay or make it to see a full pension with that kind of work load?? EXACTLY!...NOT MANY! precisely what UPS is counting on!