Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[Coldworld]

You are absolutely right, it's incredible to me that a 4year seniority P/t will work for $13.70 an hour while a new hire starts at $13. If there are no catch-up raises then seniority P/ts should be a vote NO!

The sad thing about it is you can start these new pters at 15 an hour and ups in many locations are going to STILL have a high turnover rate and folks quitting after a couple of weeks ... watch and see...

 

[Frankie's Friend]

He introduced two tier driver wages????

That guy is either drinking too much lagoon grey water, on drugs, or needs to be.
SMH

 

[Frankie's Friend]

See how long those people last there although I’m glad that maybe a few would be able to get themselves out of a bad situation and maybe make ups a career and build their lives back up but that number is probably very slim

I thought it said they were hired into management.

 

[BestMgrEver]

Vote yes so I can make your life a living hell

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Vote yes so I can make your life a living hell

 

[LagunaBrown]

He introduced two tier driver wages????

We got Cover drivers that are two tier drivers in 1997. So yes.

 

[LagunaBrown]

That guy is either drinking too much lagoon grey water, on drugs, or needs to be.
SMH

Go read it for yourself or your just trying to hide more stuff. 1997 contract we got two tier drivers called cover drivers. Your precious Ron Carey was president and led us in that strike! How could he ever agree to a two tier wage system!

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Go read it for yourself or your just trying to hide more stuff. 1997 contract we got two tier drivers called cover drivers. Your precious Ron Carey was president and led us in that strike! How could he ever agree to a two tier wage system!

Who agreed to air drivers, red circled part time Teamsters, sub contracting at peak and then extended thru Jan 15th, part timers covering full time jobs, the forced bump language, the surepost abortion, 1 punch a week healthcare, 9.5 language now being in effect in a calendar work week not a rolling 5 working days, and stewards not paying their union dues but them then dogging the members that loathe their local leadership and want to stop paying for what they dont get?

I blame Bush and you.

IDK if my device has enough ink to respond to every one of your stupid posts so I'm shutting down for the night. You have a good labor day evening. You're still a teamster so i say you're my brother.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Who agreed to air drivers, red circled part time Teamsters, sub contracting at peak and then extended thru Jan 15th, part timers covering full time jobs, the forced bump language, the surepost abortion, 1 punch a week healthcare, 9.5 language now being in effect in a calendar work week not a rolling 5 working days, and stewards not paying their union dues but them then dogging the members that loathe their local leadership and want to stop paying for what they dont get?

I blame Bush and you.

IDK if my device has enough ink to respond to every one of your stupid posts so I'm shutting down for the night. You have a good labor day evening. You're still a teamster so i say you're my brother.

I love how when I bring up that Ron Carey is responsible for two tier drivers in 1997 you can’t handle it, go on a rant, and call it stupid. Sweet dreams Brother and happy Labor Day.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Thank you and good night.

 

[Smashmouth]

I love how when I bring up that Ron Carey is responsible for two tier drivers in 1997 you can’t handle it, go on a rant, and call it stupid. Sweet dreams Brother and happy Labor Day.

I love how you continue to rail against cover drivers and how it was allowed, yet you want to allow more language that weakens the union and weakens the full time position.

 

[LagunaBrown]

I love how you continue to rail against cover drivers and how it was allowed, yet you want to allow more language that weakens the union and weakens the full time position.

I was being sarcastic because guys complain about the 22.4 and love Ron Carey. It’s just hypocritical.

Cover Drivers actually are not bad here. You can read my earlier post about how they make way more than a RPCD in progression. They can also take that red circled rate into a 22.4 or RPCD progression. We always tell guys go cover driveing first to lock-in the rate then go RPCD driving after 6 months. It’s a huge financial jump. The cover drivers have language that allows us to hire more drivers so again it works different than TCD’s. The cover driver together with the 22.4 are a tag team. It’s weird but there is a balance to it. What gets to me is all the fist pumping vote no guys that can’t accept that. I know every region is different and I have always said I understand people voting no if they never had a two tier driver. For us it works.

 

[Db2400]

Go read it for yourself or your just trying to hide more stuff. 1997 contract we got two tier drivers called cover drivers. Your precious Ron Carey was president and led us in that strike! How could he ever agree to a two tier wage system!

Big difference is Tcd are part time 22.4 are full time

 

[Db2400]

I was being sarcastic because guys complain about the 22.4 and love Ron Carey. It’s just hypocritical.

Cover Drivers actually are not bad here. You can read my earlier post about how they make way more than a RPCD in progression. They can also take that red circled rate into a 22.4 or RPCD progression. We always tell guys go cover driveing first to lock-in the rate then go RPCD driving after 6 months. It’s a huge financial jump. The cover drivers have language that allows us to hire more drivers so again it works different than TCD’s. The cover driver together with the 22.4 are a tag team. It’s weird but there is a balance to it. What gets to me is all the fist pumping vote no guys that can’t accept that. I know every region is different and I have always said I understand people voting no if they never had a two tier driver. For us it works.

Just because you are tcd that doesn't guarantee that you can become rpcd. Seniority rules at all times. Anyone who is part time with more seniority can come bump those tcd. Unbelievable you don't know the contract and claim to be a steward

 

[Coldworld]

I love how you continue to rail against cover drivers and how it was allowed, yet you want to allow more language that weakens the union and weakens the full time position.

Not every location uses tcd or casuals like they are called elsewhere...

 

[Coldworld]

I was being sarcastic because guys complain about the 22.4 and love Ron Carey. It’s just hypocritical.

Cover Drivers actually are not bad here. You can read my earlier post about how they make way more than a RPCD in progression. They can also take that red circled rate into a 22.4 or RPCD progression. We always tell guys go cover driveing first to lock-in the rate then go RPCD driving after 6 months. It’s a huge financial jump. The cover drivers have language that allows us to hire more drivers so again it works different than TCD’s. The cover driver together with the 22.4 are a tag team. It’s weird but there is a balance to it. What gets to me is all the fist pumping vote no guys that can’t accept that. I know every region is different and I have always said I understand people voting no if they never had a two tier driver. For us it works.

What do you think about surepost... we loose so much volume to the post office over this service and was one of my top 3 issues I would have liked to see addressed in this contract. Thought the Union was going to negotiate proximity language to help get more stops back on the cars and run a few more routes.....

 

[1989]

If your OK with the contract are you OK with;

1. No catch-up raises for Part-timers
2. 22.4 drivers with no 9.5 protection working weekends for $6 less doing the same job as RPCDs, fairs day work for days pay!!
3. No pension raises for 25 and out for the second contract in row.
4. The memorandum of understanding on the pension on the last page of the proposed contract.
5. Retirees cannot vote on contracts

If you are a yes vote and the company gets away with this I can only imagine what the 2023 contract will look like.

Your just in wrong part of the country.

 

[Slug Life]

Big difference is Tcd are part time 22.4 are full time

True what he said. On one hand you have a higher wage.
On the other hand you have full-time seniority.
Which would you choose?...

 

[silenze]

I was being sarcastic because guys complain about the 22.4 and love Ron Carey. It’s just hypocritical.

Cover Drivers actually are not bad here. You can read my earlier post about how they make way more than a RPCD in progression. They can also take that red circled rate into a 22.4 or RPCD progression. We always tell guys go cover driveing first to lock-in the rate then go RPCD driving after 6 months. It’s a huge financial jump. The cover drivers have language that allows us to hire more drivers so again it works different than TCD’s. The cover driver together with the 22.4 are a tag team. It’s weird but there is a balance to it. What gets to me is all the fist pumping vote no guys that can’t accept that. I know every region is different and I have always said I understand people voting no if they never had a two tier driver. For us it works.

if cover drivers are so great then why do you want 22.4?
what is this balance? how is it going to work for you?

 

[542thruNthru]

if cover drivers are so great then why do you want 22.4?
what is this balance? how is it going to work for you?

He wants 22.4s because cover driver are technically PT employee's. Meaning they contribute less a hour to the pension. So they will be paid almost $3 more a hour up 2080 hours into our pension. I believe its a increase of $27,000 a year. I could be wrong on the total I'd have to look again.