Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That'd be a Carpal Tunnel injury!

From jerking off the membership?

 

[Tony Q]

You still didn't answer my question, when was the last time you waddled into a hub and talk to members about the issues they see in their line of work. Not counting union meetings, I mean you had to get out of office and out of that nice roller chair we bought you and went to the hub to ask the members you supposedly care about what they think.

What would be the point of answering? You would not believe whatever I say. Your whole game here is to get under my skin so I slip up and say something. What are you qualifications for taking over my job? Do you have any experience in contract negotiation, organizing or processing grievances? Have you ever filed a grievance?

 

[BigBrown87]

What would be the point of answering? You would not believe whatever I say. Your whole game here is to get under my skin so I slip up and say something. What are you qualifications for taking over my job? Do you have any experience in contract negotiation, organizing or processing grievances? Have you ever filed a grievance?

Have filed a grievance and you asked me to run and I asked you resign so I could hold you to your word simple as that. So are you going to answer the question of how long it has been since you have actually talked to members at their building or is it what I suspect, that you never address the members you represent and come on here to boast on how well you and the other goons are taking care of us with this contract? Please take your time I'm in no rush, I will be busy the week of September 7th through September 10th voting No to your ed up contract you put out for us.

 

[Slug Life]

You mean you would be out as well, sign me up. I think the good old boys forgot what a 14hr day out in a package car out in 10 degree weather was like. If you have been out of the field for over 10 years your insight to our job is obsolete and you have no knowledge on current issues we face as members. Sitting behind a desk at the union hall looking at proposals will not get you the true issues behind the memberships needs. When's the last time you went to a hub in your local and actually talked to the members about what's been going on lately with
their job or life in general. Personally only time I see anyone for my local is when they want money for drive or contract time, funny how you popped up on this site right during contract time trying to sell a crap contract. Seems nothing changes with you old guard boys, come out when it best suits you and your union dues.

Sick em’ lol.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Yeah, lagoon boy doesnt pay dues but wants the rest of us to cover his for him.
Two faced.

First off you trying to defend guys not paying dues is ridiculous. There is a HUGE difference between someone refusing to pay dues and Teamster locals that pay stewards dues. One is straight up union busting and the other is dues being paid by the Local for stewards.

 

[Tony Q]

Have filed a grievance and you asked me to run and I asked you resign so I could hold you to your word simple as that. So are you going to answer the question of how long it has been since you have actually talked to members at their building or is it what I suspect, that you never address the members you represent and come on here to boast on how well you and the other goons are taking care of us with this contract? Please take your time I'm in no rush, I will be busy the week of September 7th through September 10th voting No to your ed up contract you put out for us.

What exactly is your question?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

First off you trying to defend guys not paying dues is ridiculous. There is a HUGE difference between someone refusing to pay dues and Teamster locals that pay stewards dues. One is straight up union busting and the other is dues being paid by the Local for stewards.

Whatever you say freeloader.

 

[Coldworld]

Yes but the funniest part is, he doesn’t matter.

Oh my...

 

[BigBrown87]

What exactly is your question?

If you haven't been able to see the question I have asked on 3 different posts you are avoiding it, which means your like every other union official. I will be glad when you are off the NNC in 2023 and the membership will be better off.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Whatever you say freeloader.

I am convinced you are a union buster.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

What exactly is your question?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

I am convinced you are a union buster.

Not me buster. I pay my monthly dues. YOU? Didnt think so.
We are hearing that you secretly side with management tho.
Which is worse?
You dont pay dues and secretly help management.
SMH

 

[Box Ox]

If you haven't been able to see the question I have asked on 3 different posts you are avoiding it, which means your like every other union official.

They’ve realized any truthful answers they might give would hurt the Vote Yes cause. Best to plug their ears and keep repeating their sales pitch. And hope enough people have been fooled by their untrue/half truth propaganda when it’s time to vote.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Not me buster. I pay my monthly dues. YOU? Didnt think so.
We are hearing that you secretly side with management tho.
Which is worse?
You dont pay dues and secretly help management.
SMH

So dumb. Your such a loser to post lies like that. I get that your embarrassed because I call you out on things but now that is just pathetic. I will tell you what, whomever you are so called “hearing it from” can try a vote of no confidence and run against me any day. We all know your imaginary friend will never appear because they would lose. Do me a favor and just put up or shut up because your BS is getting ridiculous.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

We all know your imaginary friend will never appear because they would lose. Do me a favor and just put up or shut up because your BS is getting ridiculous.

Who is we? And,
I'm not doing you any favors.

We (a lot of us here) are really tired of your harassing posts, one sided assertions, and personal jabs at those that dont agree with your stance on the TA as a whole.

You bring animosity upon yourself by the things you post toward other BC members, myself very much included. I never knew the word was a bad word until it became an option to describe you with. Thx for helping me with that.

My "friend"? Rumors abound around you from your so called friends. You'd better wake up son.

BTW, everyone is entitled to their opinion concerning the TA and how it will affect other younger members aside from the 22.4 abortion and no one posting on this forum is going to run against you (yet) but many do want the respect to post their feelings without your crass responses.

If that's too hard for you then you're weak and I'd say the rumors are probably correct. Buy yourself some tissues jack this isn't over yet.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Who is we? And,
I'm not doing you any favors.

We (a lot of us here) are really tired of your harassing posts, one sided assertions, and personal jabs at those that dont agree with your stance on the TA as a whole.

You bring animosity upon yourself by the things you post toward other BC members, myself very much included. I never knew the word was a bad word until it became an option to describe you with. Thx for helping me with that.

My "friend"? Rumors abound around you from your so called friends. You'd better wake up son.

BTW, everyone is entitled to their opinion concerning the TA and how it will affect other younger members aside from the 22.4 abortion and no one posting on this forum is going to run against you (yet) but many do want the respect to post their feelings without your crass responses.

If that's too hard for you then you're weak and I'd say the rumors are probably correct. Buy yourself some tissues jack this isn't over yet.

Wow that was windy. Sounds like you should be talking to your phycologist. You are so hung up on me like an ex girlfriend or something. Your fist step to recovery is admitting that a TCD has been around for years and is already a two tier driver that makes less than a 22.4. I’ll be waiting for your imaginary friends to run against me in a steward election as well. You are so hilarious!

 

[Time for change]

Well no surprise, the mystery made up 15 billion dollar number will remain a mystery.

 

[bowhnterdon]

What exactly is your question?

. I sent you a PM weeks ago. It was a legitimate question with no insults attached

 

[Kelgirl]

Because the contract isn't just written to benefit the union membership???
It is also written to allow the Company run their operation efficiently and safely.

With seniority, often comes experience and knowledge.
Why should the Company be saddled with having to send home the wrong person (or nobody, if it means having the wrong guy in the wrong chair) in order to satisfy a "two-way" seniority provision???

Where I will agree with you @Jones is in the notion that the Company should want to send home the senior employee if the senior employee is agreeable, for economic reason$, but should not be locked into the practice if it puts them at a disadvantage in regards to safety, service, or production.

Then I would say my argument to vote NO has been validated, by your logic. Pay your seniority, knowledgeable, productive PTimers the Xtra $2.00 that the NEW PT employees are going to get. As a retention thank you for our knowledge, dedication.

 

[parecasa]

The 2013-2018 contract passed by a 53%-47% margin and there was nowhere near the anger that there is with the abomination known as the 2018-2023 contract. So to Dennis and the other negotiators, no more talking points, no more how great the contract is, put on your big boy pants and tell this company that is making record profits and will continue to make record profits that our members voted no, and hopefully "HELL NO" because 22.4 is a two-tier job classification (RPCD), that P/t's have been getting screwed for decades, and they deserve catch-up raises etc. etc.

This shouldn’t be surprising Hoffa was barely re-elected last time so he probably knows he will be out so why not push us into a contract like this one. The fact that UPS is telling us to make sure we vote should be a clue this is not a good contract for us or future UPSers. Unfortunately we are fighting against UPS and Teamsters on this one. VOTE NO