Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

Been In Brown Too Long

Ex-Package Donkey
I want to see what happens next.

Does the company say this is our last, best and final offer.

Do the customers start diverting as much volume as the other competitors will take.

Do we go on Strike.

Does the company lock us out and try and bust the union.


These aren't questions. These are some of the possible scenarios. It is very possible that Amazon positions itself to really punch the Biggest guy on the block straight in the mouth.

Does UPS come out of the worst case scenario a much leaner company. The kind of delivery company that can come back stronger with much less volume and employees.

Do they come back as a predominately Commercial and Air delivery company.


Enter into this vote at your own risk. It is possibly that you go to the point of no return.
I'm mean, really? This is union negotiations 101. This has been the case of every single union contract negotiation since unions were formed. These have always been the risks. Thanks for the history lesson. Same risks were there in '97, and yes one of your "do we's" happened. We went on strike. There were plenty of scared Teamsters back then too.

Your "I want to see what happens next" and "Enter into this vote at your own risk" are thinly veiled threats. Instead of listening to your members concerns, threaten them. Great game plan. Your members are straight up telling you they don't like certain parts of the language. Perhaps you should listen...
 

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck
I want to see what happens next.

Does the company say this is our last, best and final offer.

Do the customers start diverting as much volume as the other competitors will take.

Do we go on Strike.

Does the company lock us out and try and bust the union.


These aren't questions. These are some of the possible scenarios. It is very possible that Amazon positions itself to really punch the Biggest guy on the block straight in the mouth.

Does UPS come out of the worst case scenario a much leaner company. The kind of delivery company that can come back stronger with much less volume and employees.

Do they come back as a predominately Commercial and Air delivery company.


Enter into this vote at your own risk. It is possibly that you go to the point of no return.
If we vote it down, will you STFU, make like a tree, and get outta here?
 

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
I have figured it out. Took me forever but I figured it out. Don't know how to fix it, but I know now.

I'm talking about the 'No Movement', I racked my brain trying to figure if it was disgruntled UPS Management, union haters, angry Teamsters, Fed Ex employees... fired ex UPS employee's. Of course there's a small percent of the aforementioned that contribute but no way as massive and spread out from Facebook, Youtube, BC and you see it on UPSer's but not in such a large amount of Vote No Teamsters. So thought that tells me the mass No propaganda is not coming from the inside or membership... otherwise you'd see it on UPSer's more. I thought well perhaps they're afraid because UPS knows who they are. Yet, according to Facebook. These guys don't care if UPS knows them. I even thought maybe it's coming from the massive UPS data center in N.J., that looks like the CIA.

I've been trying to keep the flock from heading to the slaughter house... some are actually trotting towards the door... then it dawned (or donned, I don't know), yet yeah.... it dawned on me who could be persuading all our thoughts online.... working this fervor up to VOTE NO! Plus, I personally see strange hacking type technical glitches here. I'm an easy target... it dawned on me who it is;

****** IT'S AMAZON COM ******

Makes perfect sense, they have the best minds for technology and how to manipulate others by using their technology against all Teamsters, whether you're Yes or No. Plus, they're ramping out as fast as possible in the hopes they get this contract voted down and we all strike. They claim they know me...I laughed at that. Well, not laughing now. They just might know who I am. They have the tools to know just from my Amazon Prime account.

I only have 8-minutes left on my lunch here. Two more pickups & 63 stops left. Amazon is also killing us on volume last 2-weeks. THEY WANT US TO VOTE NO!

Think about it, seriously.

Bye
 

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
Plus, we leave. Amazon couldn't take it all but with the help of USPS & FEDEX they could take all our volume & succeed.

Amazon is trying to take UPS out!

Like RPS coined it in 1997...

"Operation Brown Out"

FEDEX/RPS loved their little military expressions. However, they do treat this industry as war.
 
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