Who Is Voting Yes or No?

[Thebrownblob]

Im new here, always lurked…. but 27 years in this company (7PT 20FT)….I have never voted yes for a contract except the 97 one and will vote yes on this one. This is certainly the best one we’ve gotten.
Looking forward to seeing what the supplement holds.
I would have liked to gotten to $50, but if $49 helped out the PT folks then I can live with it.
I plan on investing most of this raise anyway.

Glad you’re here brother! stick around.

 

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That's perhaps why this contract is such a tough call. On one hand you have a now historically strong wage bump, on the other hand you have a downright horrible history of them. The final balance won't be realized until we see the full contract.

 

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I think in terms of pure physical and mental, attrition, not really skill, it goes
1. 70 hour rule and forced Saturday helpers which is just downright unhealthy number of hours.
2. Any number of standard operation inside jobs that adds up to greater than 8-9 shifts in 1 week. Physical burnout.
3. delivery drivers under 60 hours. which is a 50/50 split of physical and mental burnout, but both to a slightly lesser degree
4. 22.3 combos who can either skate with 8 or have clerical duty. mechanics also might go here
5. Load/Unload and preload. Decent preloaders trade a tiny piece of labor for extra mental exhaustion. but you get to stop work around 4 to 6 hours.
6. sort and irregs
7. car wash, yard shifters and feeders
8. the remaining gravy jobs.

 

[no_map_needed]

Still 50/50 on this.. but if they somehow offer up a cornish hen and throw in a little bottle of tajin I may have no choice.

 

[PT Car Washer]

hopefully we can start getting some better workers in the hub from the usual I’ve been seeing

You won't. No one is going to stay for $21/hr and put up with the abuses they will have to endure. Cooperate wants to turn the Hubs into gulags. Hell, they already are and have been for decades. I make $40/hr and I am thinking about bailing.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You won't. No one is going to stay for $21/hr and put up with the abuses they will have to endure. Cooperate wants to turn the Hubs into gulags. Hell, they already are and have been for decades. I make $40/hr and I am thinking about bailing.

$21 an hour here for over a year and turnover has gotten better for sure. But still have attendance issues.

 

[Over70irregs]

I talk to my HR guy (cool dude) and he says that:

50% of New Hires don't last a week
80% don't last a month.
95% don't last a year.
99% don't last 5yrs (when pension is vested)

Is this true at your hub too?

1 out 100 UPS workers will benefit from the pension. That means 99 people who worked a shift will never see that money.

Even better….. continual subsidy. They should hv no problem bumping it up significantly.

 

[542thruNthru]

Glad you’re here brother! stick around.

Geezus, just ask to blow him already. No one wants to see you flirting so hard. It's pathetic.

 

[542thruNthru]

Still 50/50 on this.. but if they somehow offer up a cornish hen and throw in a little bottle of tajin I may have no choice.

90% of the people on here don't even know what that is lol.

 

[PT 4 Life]

You won't. No one is going to stay for $21/hr and put up with the abuses they will have to endure. Cooperate wants to turn the Hubs into gulags. Hell, they already are and have been for decades. I make $40/hr and I am thinking about bailing.

You’re not here for a pay check as a part timer

 

[MilkTheBrownCow]

Well that’s about a stupid comment. Both of my kids had medical stuff when they were little. Son had a little heart issue spent some time in the Hospital. Daughter had a Kidney issue at 6 months old had surgery. Thanks to the insurance I didn’t pay much anything.

That's true and a good point, if I had kids I guess I would value the upgraded insurance more.

 

[MilkTheBrownCow]

Budget your money better.

Budget at best $400 a week if he's lucky enough to get $400 a week

 

[Cardb0ard.]

Have a 401k match and health insurance. Id rather have a 401k match than a pension honestly. Plus health benefits are useless, anyone with any physical problems arent going to be able to do this job.

God you’re stupid, go back to Amazon

 

[MilkTheBrownCow]

God you’re stupid, go back to Amazon

That's a very compelling argument.

 

[nWo]

God you're Amazon, go back to stupid.

 

[Wontmake9.5]

I think the contract will go through no matter what we vote

 

[badpal]

My generation of UPSers are mostly retired.

The old red circled part timers are getting up there, but we still have a few limping in every day. GOD love em, good people. Retirement actually scares them.

 

[Coldworld]

You'll work and you'll ing enjoy it!

You sound like Mrs. Coldworld when she has me doing vacation chores or vacation sex.

 

[Lineandinitial]

You sound like Mrs. Coldworld when she has me doing vacation chores or vacation sex.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Leaning towards yes.
Full timers should get more money, but I like the language improvements.