Hethatbeking
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FedEx Ground does. Express doesn't. What's the difference? Ground drivers are independent contractors with no labor law protections, so they must eat what ever comes down the corporate pipe.
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DirtySouth
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I wish it was BS. I saw it and confirmed it with someone on the National Negotiating Committee.
This is what happens when we get political hacks in jobs like Package Division Director and they craft their own proposals. And then they proceed to meet with the company, constantly, on their own while the rest of the committee stares at each other all day in another room.
542thruNthru
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And where did you get this info?
Hethatbeking
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Agreed! I'm new to UPS, drove with FDX Express for almost ten years and I was absolutely appalled by the hours UPS drivers are expected to work. I spent the first 6 months wondering aloud, "Is this what's considered a unionized job?"
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brown_trousers
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My magic 8 ball told me
DirtySouth
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Actually, that was in the employer proposal. Sorry, got my wires crossed. The union counter is 25% of a center's staffing can be hybrids.
brown_trousers
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The big question is, What did we trade this concession for? Are we getting something big in return?
bowhnterdon
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What does it matter who proposed it. Hoffa and Taylor have sold premium pay down the river. Ups will abuse this to the max. Really hard to believe what has happened to the union the last 5 years. I would love to hear Hoffa supporters defend this, if in fact that is the language ..
sandwich
The resident gearhead
That's still a high percentage.
That means full timers will work 12 hours Monday and Tuesday. Then the hybrid drivers will be working 12 hour days Wednesday through Friday. Keeping full timers under 9.5. The hybrids are going to be abused like redheaded step children. All in the hopes to one day make it to full time package. It's going to make the wait for full time even longer.
542thruNthru
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Oh the supporters will just tell us how we need to quit whining because we need to be able to compete with FedEx and Amazon.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
The problem with Saturday and Sunday deliveries is stop density and packages per stop.
35years
Gravy route
I am so happy that those now high school kids who will work at UPS for less than 6 months and never again work at a Teamster job.
Good thing we are taking care of them and not long term Teamsters (full and part time) who have faithfully paid monthly dues for years.
Yep, big victory for the working man.
Yep, no concessions as my Local rep on the national negotiating committee claims.
Good thing we are taking care of them and not long term Teamsters (full and part time) who have faithfully paid monthly dues for years.
Yep, big victory for the working man.
Yep, no concessions as my Local rep on the national negotiating committee claims.
MAKAVELI
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Sunday is not a regular service day for ground either.
Hethatbeking
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Yeah for now. I think Express experimented with it back the in early 2000's. Wasn't enough demand back then, but times have changed.
35years
Gravy route
Should have countered with...
Hybrids make full driver wage, benefits, 9.5 and all other protection, can not displace regular drivers, can not cover vacations, and will not exceed 10% of the center workforce except for peak. If regular drivers are laid off they can bump hybrids, even on days which are not a regular driver's shift.. All overtime and extra work needs to be offered to regular drivers before hybrids.
Hybrids are so UPS can be flexible, cover weekend work etc. Hybrids should in no way displace regular drivers or their work.
bowhnterdon
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We all agree on that, but Ups is already planning the exodus of top rate drivers...
PT Car Washer
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Since it would not effect current FT package delivery drivers or Feeder drivers I see it passing. Everyone agrees package delivery is a terrible job.
MAKAVELI
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Terrible job that pays well. Now it will be a terrible job that pays less.
brown_trousers
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I see USPS out in my neighborhood delivering on sundays
brown_trousers
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If its too terrible of a job, nobody will sign up for it.
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