ADVICE FOR THE DRIVERS OUT PAST 10PM --OVER DISPATCHED ETC

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

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[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The one day strike. Was a different time then.

Something is going to give

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

The one day strike. Was a different time then.

Ee walked out in 94 over the over 70 language
But honestly, I don't think the international wants to pay strike pay for us to walk out over this issue

You should be retired. Kind of odd...

 

[Thebrownblob]

You should be retired. Kind of odd...

I have neither enough time, nor am I old enough.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I have neither enough time, nor am I old enough.

I meant other guy.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I meant other guy.

Eh I never quite understood the fascination with worrying about when other people retire. Everyone situation is different. The only thing I hope is that everyone leaves healthy, and on their own terms. That timeframe is different for everyone for lots of reasons.

 

[nWo]

PTs like to cry about 22.3s not retiring. Like that spot aint falling to some pter.

 

[burrheadd]

Strike over something that has been agreed to by both sides? Contract doesn't say the company can't send drivers out heavy.

Teamsters said yes to the contract. That was the time to do something.

They didn’t say yes to continuing to abuse the contract day after day year after year.

 

[Wally]

They didn’t say yes to continuing to abuse the contract day after day year after year.

I guess it's in how you define abuse. Sucks to be you for signing off on a contract with language that allows what some perceive as abuse.

Is the company violating the contract? That the union can do something about.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I guess it's in how you define abuse. Sucks to be you for signing off on a contract with language that allows what some perceive as abuse.

Is the company violating the contract? That the union can do something about.

Doesn’t really work that way anymore. We certainly can’t wildcat. The union could be sued out of existence. And currently the labor board is very little help.

 

[tourists24]

the best bet is going to be to change the 9.5 language next contract to make it too costly for the company to simply ignore. Could be as simple as "if the driver cannot finish the route in under 9.5, then the route will be brought back with no retribution for doing so",,,, or "all hours worked for the entire week will be automatically paid at triple time rate after the third occurrence for that week"

As it is right now the IBT is satisfied with the language that was passed so the best to do is follow that language to the "t"

 

[Thebrownblob]

the best bet is going to be to change the 9.5 language next contract to make it too costly for the company to simply ignore. Could be as simple as "if the driver cannot finish the route in under 9.5, then the route will be brought back with no retribution for doing so",,,, or "all hours worked for the entire week will be automatically paid at triple time rate after the third occurrence"

As it is right now the IBT is satisfied with the language that was passed so the best to do is follow that language to the "t"

I already have guys here making quadruple time the rest of the year after they go over 9.5. Company didn’t blink.

 

[tourists24]

I already have guys here making quadruple time the rest of the year after they go over 9.5. Company didn’t blink.

only for the hours over 9.5 correct? I mean triple or, heck, even quadruple time for "all" hours worked that week (50, 60, etc). Without doing the math I am guessing that may be enough to convince them.

 

[Thebrownblob]

only for the hours over 9.5 correct? I mean triple or, heck, even quadruple time for "all" hours worked that week (50, 60, etc). Without doing the math I am guessing that may be enough to convince them.

Yes, only for the hours worked over 9.5. Of course you would have to get the company to agree to what you’re suggesting and I don’t see that happening.

 

[tourists24]

Yes, only for the hours worked over 9.5. Of course you would have to get the company to agree to what you’re suggesting and I don’t see that happening.

True..... but I don't see another way around the forced overtime unless it's done. Then again, if you did get it you know they would want it made up in some other form of concession.

 

[Wally]

Doesn’t really work that way anymore. We certainly can’t wildcat. The union could be sued out of existence. And currently the labor board is very little help.

We hear tough 9-5 talk all the time until the contract rolls out for a vote. Then, not so much. Membership votes it in with the same-same old.

The nature of the driving job at UPS involves overtime, always has, always will.

 

[Thebrownblob]

We hear tough 9-5 talk all the time until the contract rolls out for a vote. Then, not so much. Membership votes it in with the same-same old.

The nature of the driving job at UPS involves overtime, always has, always will.

I do agree with you, although getting almost $180 an hour to work the overtime is a pretty big stick. And some tough talk in my opinion. If you gotta work it, they might as well pay you.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Eh I never quite understood the fascination with worrying about when other people retire. Everyone situation is different. The only thing I hope is that everyone leaves healthy, and on their own terms. That timeframe is different for everyone for lots of reasons.

Kinda hard to qualify when the old fossil won't leave and by the time he does (or dies) you become the new old fossil