ask an IE anything

[catstalking]

Orion works on a route with a driver who has no area knowledge...not like years past when they send you out with a map hoping the boxes don't fall from the shelves.

Can Orion get anyone through a route? Likely not, but the tech is there to keep a rookie on track for the most part.

I can see how it can work, but there are many, MANY....(most) drivers who can finish the route, with the same 10-15 extra SPC, resulting in less OT, less net $$ spent by the company, and much happier customers.

see this is actually totally backwards; ORION works best with veteran drivers who know:

• how ORION is "thinking"
• when to ignore ORION and deliver in RDO
• still trust and follow it most of the time

a new driver is the worst on ORION because they'll follow a bad solution right into the dirt and never understand what happened

 

[Brownsocks]

Orion works on a route with a driver who has no area knowledge...not like years past when they send you out with a map hoping the boxes don't fall from the shelves.

Can Orion get anyone through a route? Likely not, but the tech is there to keep a rookie on track for the most part.

I can see how it can work, but there are many, MANY....(most) drivers who can finish the route, with the same 10-15 extra SPC, resulting in less OT, less net $$ spent by the company, and much happier customers.

I think the best help for rookies is the map and navigation feature. There really is no need to run 90% Orion. It's obsolete

 

[Brownsocks]

see this is actually totally backwards; ORION works best with veteran drivers who know:

• how ORION is "thinking"
• when to ignore ORION and deliver in RDO
• still trust and follow it most of the time

a new driver is the worst on ORION because they'll follow a bad solution right into the dirt and never understand what happened

I agree with this.

 

[oldngray]

see this is actually totally backwards; ORION works best with veteran drivers who know:

• how ORION is "thinking"
• when to ignore ORION and deliver in RDO
• still trust and follow it most of the time

a new driver is the worst on ORION because they'll follow a bad solution right into the dirt and never understand what happened

So a good driver is smarter than ORION?

 

[catstalking]

So a good driver is smarter than ORION?

ORION isn't smart it's just a miles calculator

might as well ask if a good driver is smarter than his underwear like wtf lol

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think the best help for rookies is the map and navigation feature. There really is no need to run 90% Orion. It's obsolete

That map now is not always correct
I've had several instances where it was showing you to turn the wrong way down a one-way Street

 

[Brownsocks]

I agree with this. Rookies will ride Orion straight to

That map now is not always correct
I've had several instances where it was showing you to turn the wrong way down a one-way Street

Same. I guess I didnt think about rookies following it in to the lake.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Same. I guess I didnt think about rookies following it in to the lake.

Or sometimes it tells you to turn down a tight alleyway that's really not the smartest thing to do with a package car.

You cannot replace route knowledge with technology

 

[Brownsocks]

Or sometimes it tells you to turn down a tight alleyway that's really not the smartest thing to do with a package car.

You cannot replace route knowledge with technology

I 100% agree. I always performed better when I rode with a vet to learn the route.

 

[Ou812fu]

that's the real question; the answer is even with all the disorganization, poor setup, and poorly trained PDS, it still manages to squeeze enough savings to be better than pre-ORION

personally if you told me all the maintenance required, then told me the PDS wouldn't get any additional support to maintain it, i'd have said it was nuts to implement and we'd never make money, and i'd have been totally wrong v0v

That's from manipulated numbers. Total milarky.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I 100% agree. I always performed better when I rode with a vet to learn the route.

The supervisor certainly don't know the routes anymore

 

[Brownsocks]

That's from manipulated numbers. Total milarky.

Orion works best for me in clean residential routes without pickups. Pickups ruin what Orion is trying to do and there are too many variables involved to fix it. I can't tell you how many times that a rookie would end up with 70 stops scattered across their route because they broke off everytime Orion said to. I miss the days when you could close and reopen pickups. I ignore Orion now, so I'm not sure what it does. I think my trace is around 70%

 

[Lineandinitial]

We keep the idiot IEs out of the airline. Their typical half-assed efforts and excuses aren’t good enough, so if for some unknown reason they make it in here, they’re gone within 6 months….back to some shothole in Rockford, IL or somewhere similar.
We also have little tolerance for Supervisors pretending to be “smart” and “knowledgeable” like you have on the Ground side.

 

[moldsporh]

see this is actually totally backwards; ORION works best with veteran drivers who know:

• how ORION is "thinking"
• when to ignore ORION and deliver in RDO
• still trust and follow it most of the time

a new driver is the worst on ORION because they'll follow a bad solution right into the dirt and never understand what happened

Definitely bad all the way around.

I think the best help for rookies is the map and navigation feature. There really is no need to run 90% Orion. It's obsolete

I agree also.

So a good driver is smarter than ORION?

Shhhh. Don't let them know.

My beef with Orion is... I don't want to keep hearing about it on a weekly basis, sometimes daily. Suck up the fact we spent big$$ on R&D, let it go.

 

[Brownsocks]

IMO, UPS would make a whole lot more money if they dropped Orion and focused on improving the Diad. That thing is adding 10s of minutes to people's day. Whoever heard of having to back out of the picture to add apts and suites?
You could give the customer a better eta if it changed on entry to a zone of the route. You could even group it by pal or something.

 

[catstalking]

That's from manipulated numbers. Total milarky.

lol sure joe whatever you say

project and center numbers can be manipulated, once you get above those levels you can't hide (for long) from all the eyes we have

 

[catstalking]

We keep the idiot IEs out of the airline. Their typical half-assed efforts and excuses aren’t good enough, so if for some unknown reason they make it in here, they’re gone within 6 months….back to some shothole in Rockford, IL or somewhere similar.
We also have little tolerance for Supervisors pretending to be “smart” and “knowledgeable” like you have on the Ground side.

oh you're an airbird and in Chicago to boot

I apologize for taking you seriously for a bit there, I try to be more polite with the mentally disabled

 

[anonymous23456]

That's it! I'm taking away GPS, Google Map, smart phone, microwave, and TV remote control from you geezers! I'll give it all to Mech-II. You don't deserve it. Now I am starting to think he is the best RPCD.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That's it! I'm taking away GPS, Google Map, smart phone, microwave, and TV remote control from you geezers! I'll give it all to Mech-II. You don't deserve it. Now I am starting to think he is the best RPCD.

He ain't

 

[oldngray]

He ain't

He IS