zubenelgenubi
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We plan to survive in style. We're getting the dollar store food to give to the golden horde to leave us alone, considering the supply chain will collapse completely, and no one will have food.
Biden signs executive order mandating vaccination.
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We plan to survive in style. We're getting the dollar store food to give to the golden horde to leave us alone, considering the supply chain will collapse completely, and no one will have food.
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Really? How about a source. This is straight from OSHA 3 days ago.
2.I. Does the ETS apply to U.S. Postal Service workers?
Yes. Under the OSH Act, the U.S. Postal Service is treated as a private employer, see 29 USC 652(5), and it is therefore required to comply with this ETS in the same manner as any other employer covered by the Act.
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PT Car Washer
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The sky is falling!, the sky is falling!
DriveInDriveOut
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Yes buddy, try reading my post again.Really? How about a source. This is straight from OSHA 3 days ago.
2.I. Does the ETS apply to U.S. Postal Service workers?
Yes. Under the OSH Act, the U.S. Postal Service is treated as a private employer, see 29 USC 652(5), and it is therefore required to comply with this ETS in the same manner as any other employer covered by the Act.
Like I said....
The post office is not covered under the federal mandate that forces federal employees and contractors to be vaccinated.
They are being classified under the rule for private businesses that requires vaccination or testing.
PT Car Washer
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Is that a distinction without a difference?
DriveInDriveOut
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No, you struggle with reading comprehension.
I put the difference in bold for people that are slow, yet you still come here and ask questions.
SMH.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Better to be prepared and not need it than not be prepared and rationalize why you will allow the government to tell you how to live your life.
I don't believe people like you.
PT Car Washer
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Glad you pointed that small difference out. Does it really matter?
When we go into a business it's the customers not our place of work. Just a thought.UPS drivers are not classified as outdoor workers.
You could argue that the time spent indoors is brief, but there is no guarantee that you can get in and out briefly at the customers premises every time. They can spend extended times in building delivering and picking up packages. They also report to an indoor building to start work and get their package cars. They return and do the same thing. This time is not brief. We cannot get out of our building within a half hour of starting.
And UPS will not classify employees individually depending on their job description or route.
Here is the classification for an outdoor employee per OSHA.
In order to qualify as work performed exclusively outdoors, the following criteria must be met:
The employee’s work must truly occur “outdoors,” which does not include buildings under construction where substantial portions of the structure are in place, such as walls and ceiling elements that would impede the natural flow of fresh air at the worksite.
- The employee must work outdoors on all days (i.e., an employee who works indoors on some days and outdoors on other days would not be exempt from the requirements of this ETS).
- The employee must not routinely occupy vehicles with other employees as part of work duties (i.e., do not drive to worksites together in a company vehicle).
- The employee works outdoors for the duration of every workday except for de minimis use of indoor spaces where other individuals may be present – such as a multi-stall bathroom or an administrative office – as long as the time spent indoors is brief, or occurs exclusively in the employee’s home (e.g., a lunch break at home).
DriveInDriveOut
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Yes.
Federal employees and contractors lose their job if they aren't vaccinated. Private business employees just have to take a test once a week if they aren't vaccinated.
Losing your job is not a small difference, and of course that matters. Where are you getting lost?
brownman2075
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Search the word brief through the entire 490 page document and there is no definition of brief to clarify the length of time of brief. I guess the definition is up to and determined by the highest bidder.
PT Car Washer
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So because UPS is a Federal contractor, does that mean unvaccinated Union members will lose their job instead of just being laid off? In your professional keyboard expertise.
PT Car Washer
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Just like all of the lawsuits over the presidential election.
DriveInDriveOut
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Is the United States Postal Service a federal contractor?
PT Car Washer
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Sounds like a trick question. I give up. Is the post office a federal contractor?
DriveInDriveOut
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No, just like the Biden admistration's eviction moratorium. They know it's illegal, they do it anyway and wait for it to be struck down
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You said UPS is a federal contractor.
But you're confused about whether the USPS is?
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