Build That Wall!!

vantexan

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What if most illegal immigration happens with people who come legally with a visa and just never leave?
So the Hispanic population has grown by tens of millions due to visa overstays? How did all those poor, non-English speaking folks get visas, let alone afford the flight?
 

vantexan

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Well you're poor and you managed to get a flight to abandon your family, so, I dunno, you tell us.....
I have discounted flights as a FedEx retiree, unlike UPS. But you deflect. How did millions of non-citizens get a visa to visit? Actually very difficult to do in Latin America unless you can prove a number of things, particularly wealth.
 

vantexan

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Trump's border wall would stop less than half of illegal immigration in the U.S.

Racism makes you look stupid. Or maybe racist views are stupid.
Hey bro I've lived in three places on the border that were overwhelmingly Hispanic. No one forced me to and if I was racist I would've never lived there. Not to mention I'm just about to move to South America. Have Hispanic cousins too. I've seen people breaking their backs in 98 degree heat to give their kids a better life. Totally respect that. My concern is we can't just keep adding millions to our population, many of whom need assistance to survive. The well is getting pretty dry. And there's a criminal element that comes up too. They are causing terrible problems. That you would characterize it as racist means very little now because people like you always bring up racism as if there's no other legitimate reason. And I guess Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Pelosi et al are racists too because they have voted for border barriers in the past too. This is ridiculous. A wall should have been erected a long time ago. And I have no problem letting the people who are here now get some kind of legal status to stay but if they commit crimes they need to be removed. Hopefully someday people can discuss such things without racism being injected into it.
 

bacha29

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The 5 billion Trump wants will build 215 miles of wall along a border 2000+ miles long. All an illegal has to do is to walk along the wall until he finds where it ends, turn left and head north.
 

bbsam

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Hey bro I've lived in three places on the border that were overwhelmingly Hispanic. No one forced me to and if I was racist I would've never lived there. Not to mention I'm just about to move to South America. Have Hispanic cousins too. I've seen people breaking their backs in 98 degree heat to give their kids a better life. Totally respect that. My concern is we can't just keep adding millions to our population, many of whom need assistance to survive. The well is getting pretty dry. And there's a criminal element that comes up too. They are causing terrible problems. That you would characterize it as racist means very little now because people like you always bring up racism as if there's no other legitimate reason. And I guess Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Pelosi et al are racists too because they have voted for border barriers in the past too. This is ridiculous. A wall should have been erected a long time ago. And I have no problem letting the people who are here now get some kind of legal status to stay but if they commit crimes they need to be removed. Hopefully someday people can discuss such things without racism being injected into it.
You’re relying on you personal eye test. There’s more to the facts than you are willing to believe. Oh, sure you point to 3 million sneaking across the border and ignore the 8 million that came and overstayed the visa. Why?

As for the racist element, look at your previous response and tell me how it’s not a racist remark.
 

vantexan

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So 50+ billion for 2k miles? Or are you leaving holes to slip thru.. $$ well spent NOT!
No, about 1000 miles, with natural barriers providing the rest. And as has been demonstrated the wall will pay for itself many times over by keeping out people who need assistance as well as criminals.
 
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