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[UnionStrong]

I know all of that. We don't have their records. You think that we do. We do not have any written evidence from Germans of any totals near 6 million. Deal with it.

The Germans were anal retentive about record keeping but tried to hide evidence when it was obvious they were losing.

Not always successful either. Nonetheless it’s a pretty safe estimate that at least 6 million Jews were killed. Most historians agree on that. Just because a UPS driver doesn’t think so means less than nothing

 

[wilberforce15]

Not always successful either. Nonetheless it’s a pretty safe estimate that at least 6 million Jews were killed. Most historians agree on that. Just because a UPS driver doesn’t think so means less than nothing

Most historians agreeing doesn't make it a safe estimate. There are huge politics at play in this number, and that affects what the consensus is.

Historians are as career-motivated and politically-motivated as anyone else. Same with CDC bean-crunchers. They all know that it matters what number they come up with.

Saying 3 million to 5 million isn't acceptable. So, it was made 6 to 9. The evidence for it just isn't that good.

 

[UnionStrong]

I know all of that. We don't have their records. You think that we do. We do not have any written evidence from Germans of any totals near 6 million. Deal with it.

Get an education and come back here and make and argument that’s above a 4th grade level

 

[wilberforce15]

Get an education and come back here and make and argument that’s above a 4th grade level

You're the one who said it was in the record, and then couldn't cite the record.

 

[UnionStrong]

Most historians agreeing doesn't make it a safe estimate. There are huge politics at play in this number, and that affects what the consensus is.

Historians are as career-motivated and politically-motivated as anyone else. Same with CDC bean-crunchers. They all know that it matters what number they come up with.

Saying 3 million to 5 million isn't acceptable. So, it was made 6 to 9. The evidence for it just isn't that good.

Cause you know better

 

[UnionStrong]

You're the one who said it was in the record, and then couldn't cite the record.

Pick up a history book

 

[wilberforce15]

Anyone who says it's 3 million to 5 million is kicked out of academia pretty much anywhere, and in some countries they'd be arrested for saying it's 3 million to 5 million.

And you wonder why the consensus is 6 to 9 million?


lol

 

[UnionStrong]

You're the one who said it was in the record, and then couldn't cite the record.

I said every history book is a record. It’s not my responsibility to prove what’s on the public record, you just don’t believe it so leave it there.

 

[UnionStrong]

Anyone who says it's 3 million to 5 million is kicked out of academia pretty much anywhere, and in some countries they'd be arrested for saying it's 3 million to 5 million.

And you wonder why the consensus is 6 to 9 million?


lol

Whatever, you have the right to your ignorant opinion

 

[wilberforce15]

Whatever, you have the right to your ignorant opinion

My opinion has been made illegal in some countries, and disqualifying for academic work in almost all others.

And you wonder why not many hold to that opinion?

 

[wilberforce15]

I said every history book is a record. It’s not my responsibility to prove what’s on the public record, you just don’t believe it so leave it there.

History books are not records.

You don't know what a record is.

 

[UnionStrong]

History books are not records.

You don't know what a record is.

How stupid

 

[UnionStrong]

My opinion has been made illegal in some countries, and disqualifying for academic work in almost all others.

And you wonder why not many hold to that opinion?

Because it’s ridiculous?

 

[wilberforce15]

How stupid

A record is evidence, usually written, contemporaneous with the event that provides an account.

History books are nothing more than editorials about what that guy thinks the record says.

The records are the primary sources. A historian is not one.

 

[UnionStrong]

How stupid

What’s a history book? A novel? Stop it! Your only making yourself look dumber

 

[wilberforce15]

I had to explain what a source was to a guy with an English degree, and now I have to explain what a record is in a history discussion.

You guys are exhausting.

 

[UnionStrong]

A record is evidence, usually written, contemporaneous with the event that provides an account.

History books are nothing more than editorials about what that guy thinks the record says.

The records are the primary sources. A historian is not one.

The lack of knowledge is staggering

 

[UnionStrong]

I had to explain what a source was to a guy with an English degree, and now I have to explain what a record is in a history discussion.

You guys are exhausting.

Then go away

 

[wilberforce15]

Then go away

Why should the smart people go away?

 

[UnionStrong]

Then go away

I know what source is and seriously doubt you can teach me anything useful