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Its like a catagion. The GOP needs to find every wierdo in the country to be a republican. We can add another name to the list right after JOE SANDUSKY and JOE PATERNO...
JOE THE maroon
Joe the Plumber Ad: Gun Control Led to the Holocaust - YouTube
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JOE THE maroon
Joe the Plumber Ad: Gun Control Led to the Holocaust - YouTube
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Yup, and then pulls the Executive Privilege card to cover it up.
Throw the bum out.
So why did Obama GIVE them more guns???
Because he's not a socialist. He's a secret NRA member.
Babagounj
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To get them all to blend into American life.
After all since bhos took office , that is the one industry that has not seen sales go down.
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The Nazis had guns. The Nazis hated the Jews, and they herded millions of them into concentration camps and killed them. The Jews didnt have any guns, so there wasnt anything they could do about it. The handful of Jews who were armed, such as the ones in the Warsaw ghetto during the Uprising in 1943, were at least able to put up a fight and take a few Nazis with them.
Granted, that is certainly an oversimplification of a much larger and more complicated historical tragedy.... but when you get right down to the ugly truth of it, the fact remains that massacres are perpetrated by armed people against unarmed people. Those who have the weapons make the rules, and those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who dont.
BigUnionGuy
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At a time when our president and other politicians tend to apologize for our country's prior actions, here's a refresher on how some of our former patriots handled negative comments about our country.
These stories are good reminders of how proud and thankful we should always be as Americans:
JFK'S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when DeGaule decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaule said he wanted all U.S. military out of France as soon as possible.
Rusk responded,
"Does that include those who are buried here?"
DeGaule did not respond.
You could have heard a pin drop.
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When in England, at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of 'empire building' by George Bush.
He answered by saying, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."
You could have heard a pin drop.
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There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, "Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?"
A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: "Our carriers have three
hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?"
You could have heard a pin drop.
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A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, "Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?"
Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German."
You could have heard a pin drop.
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THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.
"You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically.
Mr Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.
"Then you should know enough to have your passport ready."
The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."
"Impossible. Americans always have to show their passports on arrival in France!"
The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look Then he quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchman to show a passport to."
You could have heard a pin drop.
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If you are proud to be an American, pass this on! If not, delete it.
I am proud to be of this land, AMERICA let us stand up for it
These stories are good reminders of how proud and thankful we should always be as Americans:
JFK'S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when DeGaule decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaule said he wanted all U.S. military out of France as soon as possible.
Rusk responded,
"Does that include those who are buried here?"
DeGaule did not respond.
You could have heard a pin drop.
-------------------------------------------------------------
When in England, at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of 'empire building' by George Bush.
He answered by saying, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."
You could have heard a pin drop.
-------------------------------------------------------------
There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, "Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?"
A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: "Our carriers have three
hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?"
You could have heard a pin drop.
-------------------------------------------------------------
A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, "Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?"
Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German."
You could have heard a pin drop.
-------------------------------------------------------------
THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.
"You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically.
Mr Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.
"Then you should know enough to have your passport ready."
The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."
"Impossible. Americans always have to show their passports on arrival in France!"
The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look Then he quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchman to show a passport to."
You could have heard a pin drop.
-------------------------------------------------------------
If you are proud to be an American, pass this on! If not, delete it.
I am proud to be of this land, AMERICA let us stand up for it
BigUnionGuy
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I understand how facts, can be inconvenient....
By Emily Miller
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The Washington Times
Monday, June 18, 2012
Gun-control advocates are noticeably silent when crime rates decline. Their multimillion-dollar lobbying efforts are designed to manufacture mass anxiety that every gun owner is a potential killer. The statistics show otherwise.
Last week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that violent crime decreased 4 percent in 2011. The number of murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults all went down, continuing a pattern.
“This is not a one-year anomaly, but a steady decline in the FBI’s violent-crime rates,” said Andrew Arulanandam, spokesman for the National Rifle Association. “It would be disingenuous for anyone to not credit increased self-defense laws to account for this decline.”
Mr. Arulanandam pointed out that only a handful of states had concealed-carry programs 25 years ago, when the violent-crime rate peaked. Today, 41 states either allow carrying without a permit or have “shall issue” laws that make it easy for just about any noncriminal to get a permit. Illinois and Washington, D.C., are the only places that refuse to recognize the right to bear arms. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence did not respond to requests for comment.
If the gun grabbers were right, we’d be in the middle of a crime wave, considering how many guns are on the streets. “Firearms sales have increased substantially since right after the 2008 election,” said Bill Brassard, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), which represents the $4 billion firearms and ammunition industry. “There was a leveling off in 2010, but now we’re seeing a surge again.”
The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) serves as one of the best indicators of gun sales because it counts each time someone buys a gun. Checks hit an all-time high of 16.5 million last year. In the first five months of this year, the numbers have gone up 10 percent over the same period last year as Americans rush to the gun store in case President Obama decides to exercise “more flexibility” in restricting guns in a second term.
Gun manufacturing is the one private-sector industry “doing fine” on Mr. Obama’s watch. Sturm, Ruger & Co. sold 1 million firearms in the first quarter of 2012 - an amazing 50 percent increase from the first quarter of 2011. The jump was so steep that the company stopped accepting orders from March to May to catch up with demand for its products.
Last month, Smith & Wesson announced a firearm-order backlog of approximately $439 million by the end of April, up 135 percent from the same quarter in 2011. Sales in that period were up 28 percent from 2011 and 14 percent over its own predictions to investors. NSSF estimates the industry is responsible for approximately 180,000 jobs and has an annual impact on the U.S. economy of $28 billion.
Mr. Obama could honestly take credit for this jobs program, economic boost and the reduction in violent crime that has followed the spike in gun ownership on his watch. Instead, he’s silent about his greatest positive accomplishment.
Emily Miller is a senior editor for the Opinion pages at The Washington Times.
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"Facts" are not only inconvenient, but they are totally irrelevant to the whining, hand-wringing, nanny-state gun-phobics whose only mission in life is to turn their paranoia of inantimate objects into laws that deny other people the right to arm and protect themselves.
If anyone wants to blame anyone for border agent BRIAN TERRYs death, blame should be placed at the feet of the NRA who for YEARS fight against regulations that would have prevented the sale of automatic weapons illegally to cartels.
With operation fast and furious, guns have been sold across our borders for years by gun dealers who dont GIVE A CRAP about who gets killed. Just like most gun owners, people who get killed by guns dont really matter because "they" believe they have a right to own guns.
Laws have been written in states like ARIZONA that circumvent gun laws and INCREASE the number of automatic weapons being sold to cartels.
For instance, gun shows in Arizona have ONE GIANT STUPID LAW in favor of those willing to sell to "straw buyers" who buy automatic weapons that end up with the cartels. Its a really simple premise.
At a gun show, if you are a "licensed" gun dealer, then you have to do all the background checks, ID's and waiting periods, BUT, and this is a BIG BUT, if you are an UN LICENSED dealer, you can sell to ANYONE without doing a background check, checking for ID's, or getting a signature for ANY weapon.
A "straw buyer" comes in, goes to the MASS of unlicensed gun sellers and buy ANY AUTOMATIC WEAPON THEY WANT, and then walk out into the parking lot of the gun show and sell it to a member of a cartel.
Operation "wide reciever" CREATED UNDER GEORGE BUSH was responsible for thousands of guns being sold in this manner in order to track them to cartels. Hundreds of people in mexico were killed with those guns with ZERO prosecutions.
The NRA did not like this operation and has spent tons of money trying to shut it down. The NRA FEARS that these types of operations will only lead to FURTHER gun regulations and BANS on assault rifles, and THEY AINT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN.
The last thing the NRA wants is limitations on guns, assault weapons bans or the shutting down of GUN SHOWS on the border or NEAR border towns. They prefer to sell guns near the border no matter WHO GETS KILLED.
What do they care? Its all about MONEY and as the largest LOBBYING group for the GUN MAKERS, its in their best interest to rally for the sale of ALL GUNS.
The deaths of human beings means NOTHING to the NRA or its members.
The confusion of the intention of the NRA is packaged nicely inter an interpretation of personal safety.
Its too bad, the NRA's goal is to make the USA as unsafe as possible, a WIN WIN for them.
There should be ZERO GUN SHOWS in the border states.
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