1BROWNWRENCH
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Make every vote cost $5000 apiece. That should not bother you either. Voter suppression concerns cured.
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BrownBrokeDown
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sigh...I can't believe I just liked 2 of realbrown's posts. But they needed it.
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We should send a big thank you to Governor Deal for signing the Guns Allowed Everywhere Bill!
Georgia Waffle House Cook Serves Hot Lead, Shoots Customer Dead (Video)
he Waffle House restaurant chain has been in the news a bit lately. Just recently, a Georgia cop was shot and killed by a customer he had escorted into the parking lot. Now, the situation has flipped, and it’s the customer who was shot by a Waffle House staffer.
Cook Quintavius Martin shot dead customer Adrian Mosley during a dispute at a Waffle House restaurant in Georgia. Photo: Screen grab.
Liberaland reports the shooting took place early Friday morning, just after 4:30, and stemmed from a dispute between a restaurant worker and a customer. When officers arrived at the restaurant, 33-year-old Adrian Mosley was already dead. The employee who shot him, 25-year-old Quintavius Martin, was arrested and charged with a litany of crimes: murder, possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, and carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.
One witness, Ontray Haley, was eating at the restaurant when the shooting happened. He remembered two men and a woman entering the restaurant. He told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that the woman started arguing with a security guard, and when the security guard asked the woman to leave, and she left, but the two men didn’t. When the men began getting unruly, the cook refused to serve them. At that point, Haley said, the two men “got into it with the cook and the guy that got shot, he threatened the cook. He told him, you come outside and I’m going to fire you up, which basically meant he wanted to shoot him.”
And that’s when gunfire broke out.
Haley said it was absolute chaos: “It occurred right at the counter. It was just chaos; I was ducking for cover like everybody else. I looked up and I saw the guy in the floor, dead.”
Police think that, at one point, Mosley may have thrown water in Martin’s face, and that was what spurned the shooting. At the time, Haley thought that the security guard had shot Mosley, according to a statement quoted by WSB-TV2.
“The guy was threatening the cook saying he’s from this side of town and (Martin) said you can take it outside because I’m going to fire you up, which I guess he meant he wanted to shoot him or whatever. I didn’t know the cook had a weapon on him because I thought the security guard shot him.”
In April, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed the state’s “Safe Carry Protection Act,” or the “guns everywhere bill.” The bill made it legal for licensed gun owners in Georgia to carry weapons in bars, schools, churches, airports, and even some government buildings.
Georgia Waffle House Cook Serves Hot Lead, Shoots Customer Dead (Video)
he Waffle House restaurant chain has been in the news a bit lately. Just recently, a Georgia cop was shot and killed by a customer he had escorted into the parking lot. Now, the situation has flipped, and it’s the customer who was shot by a Waffle House staffer.
Cook Quintavius Martin shot dead customer Adrian Mosley during a dispute at a Waffle House restaurant in Georgia. Photo: Screen grab.
Liberaland reports the shooting took place early Friday morning, just after 4:30, and stemmed from a dispute between a restaurant worker and a customer. When officers arrived at the restaurant, 33-year-old Adrian Mosley was already dead. The employee who shot him, 25-year-old Quintavius Martin, was arrested and charged with a litany of crimes: murder, possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, and carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.
One witness, Ontray Haley, was eating at the restaurant when the shooting happened. He remembered two men and a woman entering the restaurant. He told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that the woman started arguing with a security guard, and when the security guard asked the woman to leave, and she left, but the two men didn’t. When the men began getting unruly, the cook refused to serve them. At that point, Haley said, the two men “got into it with the cook and the guy that got shot, he threatened the cook. He told him, you come outside and I’m going to fire you up, which basically meant he wanted to shoot him.”
And that’s when gunfire broke out.
Haley said it was absolute chaos: “It occurred right at the counter. It was just chaos; I was ducking for cover like everybody else. I looked up and I saw the guy in the floor, dead.”
Police think that, at one point, Mosley may have thrown water in Martin’s face, and that was what spurned the shooting. At the time, Haley thought that the security guard had shot Mosley, according to a statement quoted by WSB-TV2.
“The guy was threatening the cook saying he’s from this side of town and (Martin) said you can take it outside because I’m going to fire you up, which I guess he meant he wanted to shoot him or whatever. I didn’t know the cook had a weapon on him because I thought the security guard shot him.”
In April, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed the state’s “Safe Carry Protection Act,” or the “guns everywhere bill.” The bill made it legal for licensed gun owners in Georgia to carry weapons in bars, schools, churches, airports, and even some government buildings.
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i think the politicians charge the lobbyists and corporations even more than that to vote on Bills the corporations want passed.
I'm certain our Governor is the best goldanged politician money can buy!
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you think its a good idea for students to run around with guns?
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wrong, it's far smarter than the ideas that gun ownership is equal to segregation,that students should be armed,that good guys with guns will save the day or that any one should be allowed to carry a gun any where any time that i have seen posted on this board
BrownBrokeDown
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1.) the cook didn't have a license to carry, so no law would have helped there.
2.) the guy that got shot threatened to shoot the cook.
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in another yet unrelated shooting this piece of cowardly trash DID have a carry permit
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/griffin-officer-shot-and-killed-at-waffle-house/ngBL9/
he Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A 43-year-old Griffin police officer and father of seven was only doing his job when he was shot and killed outside of a Waffle House early this morning while working an off-duty security job in full uniform, his brother said.
Raymond Jordan was there when Griffin police say Michael D. Bowman, 30, shot Officer Kevin Jordan multiple times. Raymond Jordan ultimately shot Bowman, who is in stable condition at Atlanta Medical Center.
“I don’t want to be bitter,” Raymond Jordan told Channel 2 Action News. “But the only regret I have is that I didn’t kill him.”
He told the television station that Bowman, Chantell Mixon and Tyler Taylor were drunk when they came to the Waffle House at 1702 North Expressway. He claimed the trio used racial slurs and did not respect his brother, an ex-Marine who had been with the Griffin Police Department for four years.
In a statement, Griffin police only said that Bowman, Mixon and Taylor caused a disturbance and were asked to leave the restaurant around 2:20 a.m. Saturday. An altercation spilled into the parking lot, where Officer Kevin Jordan tried to arrest Mixon, Officer Mike Richardson with the Griffin Police Department said. Mixon is Bowman’s 28-year-old girlfriend, according to Channel 2.
Officer Kevin Jordan was on the ground trying to restrain Mixon when police say Bowman “maliciously shot” him multiple times in the back, Richardson said.
Raymond Jordan was in the parking lot when the gunfire erupted and grabbed his own gun, Richardson said. A civilian, he had a permit to carry a gun and was at the restaurant to visit his brother, who often worked there on weekends, police said. Raymond Jordan was not charged Saturday in Bowman’s shooting, and police offered no explanation.
Bowman and Mixon were charged with felony murder in Officer Kevin Jordan’s shooting death. Authorities also charged Mixon with felony obstruction. She made her first court appearance Sunday and was denied bond, Channel 2 reported. A third suspect, 23-year-old Tyler Taylor, was charged with disorderly conduct. It was not immediately clear if the three suspects hired attorneys, and several calls to their relatives went unanswered.
Darlene Buhlinger, Bowman’s aunt, did speak to Channel 2. She said she was in “disbelief” about what happened. She told the television station that her nephew had a permit to carry a gun but never thought he was capable of shooting anyone.
“That’s somebody’s son, daddy,” she said. “I mean I don’t even know what to feel. I’m so sorry for that family.”
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is now probing the shooting. The Griffin Police Department has asked the public to pray for Officer Kevin Jordan’s family, who will have to make funeral arrangements just as they were preparing to celebrate the upcoming high school graduation of one of his seven children.
“We are deeply saddened by these events and send our condolences to the family of Officer Jordan,” the department said in a statement. “We request that you keep the Jordan family in your prayers and thoughts as well as our local law enforcement community. Officer Jordan will be greatly missed.”
Funeral arrangements for Jordan will be announced Monday.
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why didnt he employees call 911? this Waffle House is on Fulton Industrial right by the Atlanta Hub and there is a Police Substation maybe a block from this establishment?
yet another Dirty Harry Wannabe
soberups
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It cannot possibly be correct. Schools are "gun free zones". There are signs on the doors saying "no guns allowed". Must be a mistake.
oldngray
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(CNN) -- After Tuesday's shooting at an Oregon high school, many media outlets, including CNN, reported that there have been 74 school shootings in the past 18 months.
The statistic came from a group called Everytown for Gun Safety, an umbrella group started by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a passionate and public advocate of gun control.
So on Wednesday, CNN took a closer look at the list, delving into the circumstances of each incident Everytown included.
CNN determined that 15 of the incidents Everytown included were situations similar to the violence in Newtown or Oregon -- a minor or adult actively shooting inside or near a school.
Some of the other incidents on Everytown's list included personal arguments, accidents and alleged gang activities and drug deals
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html
The statistic came from a group called Everytown for Gun Safety, an umbrella group started by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a passionate and public advocate of gun control.
So on Wednesday, CNN took a closer look at the list, delving into the circumstances of each incident Everytown included.
CNN determined that 15 of the incidents Everytown included were situations similar to the violence in Newtown or Oregon -- a minor or adult actively shooting inside or near a school.
Some of the other incidents on Everytown's list included personal arguments, accidents and alleged gang activities and drug deals
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html
soberups
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Bollocks and rubbish.
Read my post again and try comprehending it this time.
I compared two rights, voting and gun ownership.
I compared the two Constitutional amendments that enumerate them, the 15th and the 2nd.
I then pointed out that, by themselves, those Amendments were inadequate to protect those rights because of the ability of politicians with an underlying agenda to completely negate those rights by placing "common sense" and "reasonable" restrictions upon them.
I made no moral equivalency between them, only a practical one.
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If guns were as regulated as cars, then my guns and my Oregon carry permit would be valid in all 50 states, just like my Oregon license plates and drivers license currently are.
MAKAVELI
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Then I'm sure you support universal background checks , just as all cars have to be registered.
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As i stated earlier: I have sent copies of your posts to friends of mine who actually WERE Black Voters in 1950 and took part in the Civil Rights movement and aside from giving them a very good laugh they felt it was sad that you cannot see the difference between the two issues.
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Yeah I do. I also think one should have to under go a of battery psychological tests to weed out the mentally deficients from owning a gun
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Cars serve many purposes,guns........only one. I would think even you could see the differences in Auto and Gun regulations
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CNN Adopts Flawed Right-Wing Logic On School Shooting Numbers
CNN is adopting flawed right-wing media logic that seeks to downplay the numbers of school shootings in the last 18 months.
How Everytown reached the 74 school shooting figure is no mystery. On its website, the gun safety groupclearly explains its methodology: "Incidents were classified as school shootings when a firearm was discharged inside a school building or on school or campus grounds, as documented in publicly reported news accounts. This includes assaults, homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings."
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/12/cnn-adopts-flawed-right-wing-logic-on-school-sh/199699
The right-wing media has sought to debunk this statistic in order to downplay the prevalence of school shootings. Criticism of Everytown's graphic began on June 10 with a lengthy series of tweets from conservative journalist Charles C. Johnson that purported to debunk many of the 74 shootings as "fake shooting
Shootings that Johnson believed had been mischaracterized as school shootings included incidents where, in his own words, "A gunman ran onto campus, was chased by police, shot student accidentally," "Honors student shoots self in front of class," and, "Northwest High School principal shot by her ex-husband on campus":
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