Healthcare next contract

[MAKAVELI]

I am not sure about the truthfulness of this statement. Care to provide some facts?



Sorry Rod, I respected you up until this post! You are going to have to prove this claim because if she's your wife she has Teamcare and it did not go up 62%!! So please, PLEASE provide proof of your statement....I really don't want to put you in my basket of lying POS's like Dave here!!!

The Cadillac plan tax is paid by the employer not the employee.

 

[Catatonic]

I am not sure about the truthfulness of this statement. Care to provide some facts?



Sorry Rod, I respected you up until this post! You are going to have to prove this claim because if she's your wife she has Teamcare and it did not go up 62%!! So please, PLEASE provide proof of your statement....I really don't want to put you in my basket of lying POS's like Dave here!!!

Looks like Benben was Wrongwrong.

 

[DOK]

Provided now that Obama care gets repealed, any bets on us keeping our plans and not having to pay anything?

We didn't pay anything before obamacare and don't pay anything now, so I'd say no.

 

[MyTripisCut]

We didn't pay anything before obamacare and don't pay anything now, so I'd say no.

Good for you. A lot of us pay higher co-pays and for scripts now.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I really don't want to put you in my basket of lying POS's like Dave here!!!

Care to post any facts supporting this baseless accusation?

 

[rod]

I am not sure about the truthfulness of this statement. Care to provide some facts?



Sorry Rod, I respected you up until this post! You are going to have to prove this claim because if she's your wife she has Teamcare and it did not go up 62%!! So please, PLEASE provide proof of your statement....I really don't want to put you in my basket of lying POS's like Dave here!!!

Duh---I'm retired and past 65 so we lost our Teamcare insurance. We have to buy her insurance on the open market now and that sucks. Do anything you want but don't even think about comparing me to Nancy.

 

[DOK]

Good for you. A lot of us pay higher co-pays and for scripts now.

We pay more for copays and Rx as well, thought that was due to inflation more than obamacare. I could be wrong, never gave it much thought.

 

[Brownslave688]

I never said it was however, obamacare has skyrocketed costs. Pretty sure that was a determining factor in what ups did to management years ago. I also had no doubt that if things stayed how they stand now we would end up paying for our benefits next contract.

Teamcare has millions in the bank. Ups is making 5+ billion dollars a year. You shouldn't even be entertaining the thought of paying for insurance.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Teamcare has millions in the bank. Ups is making 5+ billion dollars a year. You shouldn't even be entertaining the thought of paying for insurance.

Last I heard our plan has an 18 month surplus.

 

[Coldworld]

Yes--insurance costs have been going up for years BUT my wifes just went up 62%--just like that--overnight. That is friend-ing ridiculous. That's Obama Care

It also doesn't help when fraud is costing the health insurance companies and Medicare billions....

 

[Coldworld]

I am not sure about the truthfulness of this statement. Care to provide some facts?



Sorry Rod, I respected you up until this post! You are going to have to prove this claim because if she's your wife she has Teamcare and it did not go up 62%!! So please, PLEASE provide proof of your statement....I really don't want to put you in my basket of lying POS's like Dave here!!!

Lmao about dave

 

[Coldworld]

Last I heard our plan has an 18 month surplus.

Take that and put into pension...

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Take that and put into pension...

Can't.

 

[Brownslave688]

It also doesn't help when fraud is costing the health insurance companies and Medicare billions....

Administration........that's why healthcare is through the roof and why college is through the roof.

Also you can't just get an MRI anymore. You have to go to physical therapy for 2 months then see a specialist the. Maybe you can get an MRI. MRI machines are expensive but after you pay for it it costs virtually nothing to run.


I know it's just one profession but anesthesiologist made 2-3X as much in the 80's as they do now.

 

[km3]

It also doesn't help when fraud is costing the health insurance companies and Medicare billions....

My mother got a job at a company that provides dialysis treatments for people. Because of her duties, she had access to some financial information, particularly regarding what a treatment actually costs, and what people on various insurance plans end up getting billed. What she told me absolutely shocked me. She said it wasn't unusual for the company to bill insurance companies 7-10 times the actual cost of treatment, and even more for government based programs like medicare or medicaid.

I'm no fan of insurance companies, but we shouldn't pretend that they're the only ones screwing us. In fact, sometimes they're the ones getting screwed...they just pass that on to us. :/

Needless to say, I can't prove anything here. That's just what I was told, and I have no reason not to believe her other than the fact that it's just so outrageous, if true.

 

[Indecisi0n]

We lost amazon = no healthcare.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

My mother got a job at a company that provides dialysis treatments for people. Because of her duties, she had access to some financial information, particularly regarding what a treatment actually costs, and what people on various insurance plans end up getting billed. What she told me absolutely shocked me. She said it wasn't unusual for the company to bill insurance companies 7-10 times the actual cost of treatment, and even more for government based programs like medicare or medicaid.

I'm no fan of insurance companies, but we shouldn't pretend that they're the only ones screwing us. In fact, sometimes they're the ones getting screwed...they just pass that on to us. :/

Needless to say, I can't prove anything here. That's just what I was told, and I have no reason not to believe her other than the fact that it's just so outrageous, if true.

Ask your mother to give you a brief explanation of how DRG's work.

 

[bbsam]

Yes--insurance costs have been going up for years BUT my wifes just went up 62%--just like that--overnight. That is friend-ing ridiculous. That's Obama Care

You aren't telling the whole truth. Initially the exchanges caused costs for the insured to drop considerably for several years.

 

[oldngray]

You aren't telling the whole truth. Initially the exchanges caused costs for the insured to drop considerably for several years.

Not true. Only for the few who were subsidized by others paying higher rates.

Where do you think "subsidies" come from?

Plus everything was back loaded to delay the true costs. Now people are finally seeing the increases and freaking out. If they had read the details it shouldn't have been a surprise.

 

[bbsam]

Not true. Only for the few who were subsidized by others paying higher rates.

Where do you think "subsidies" come from?

Plus everything was back loaded to delay the true costs. Now people are finally seeing the increases and freaking out. If they had read the details it shouldn't have been a surprise.

Sir. I pay premiums every month with no subsidies. I write the check. I can assure you that never has a check been written to "Obamacare" and premiums went down about $300 per month.