How is over under timed?

[eats packages]

I still input as much information as possible into the diad. It just helps to pass time, and perhaps memorize some names, businesses and apartment numbers in doing so. Not too worried about whether or not any one column grants time as long as I am maximizing the information I can record. DT load and Unload (when picking up and unloading packages outside of pickups EG air runs) is a big one still.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Does leave building time, return, breaks, etc have any effect on it?

Just curious.

 

[Coldworld]

He left last year I heard he took a position in lower 48. I think his youngest is out of house now she was in high school when I worked at hub few years back, I umpired some of her softball games. When he left he was Top Dog in state over package and air operations.

Some people hated him, I got along with him fine. One day the district told him to do a ride along with “whoever is most over allowed last week”. I was the senior cover driver i.e. they would put me on routes others had trouble with. Turned out I had run five routes in five days previous week... all routes I had done before but probably like once or twice a year or more ago. Bingo I was “most over allowed” lol. Whatever! Told Scott, “Great, I’ll enjoy the company.”

Scott obviously put the fix in, I got a sweet resi route that was loaded immaculately, nearly stop for stop. Think preload Supe was helping out. Did 150ish stops in eight hours. Most Scott said about my performance all day was that I should speed up to speed limit on highway.... I always started day in different car a little slow kinda feeling out the car. Bottom line was one of my easiest days.

My supervisor told me last week that we get 19 seconds in back of truck for each package. So if you have 2 packages for a stop, you get 38 seconds and so on

You have a bricked out car…automatically a variance for selection….my truck in pkg was bulked out almost every day… I begged them to go out with me and they refused…they knew that I had the proof that the loads were crap and they would have to take off some resi areas off of me so the 1.5 over was worth it to them..whatever

 

[Coldworld]

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Staring nobody….co-stars: who cares and WGAF… guest appearance from Whatever.

 

[Made brown]

If you do everything by following the methods and You still have OPOA, so what. Those numbers are management's numbers

 

[AKCoverMan]

My supervisor told me last week that we get 19 seconds in back of truck for each package. So if you have 2 packages for a stop, you get 38 seconds and so on

I would ask for the “planned day report”. I bet it’s not that much time.

 

[Coldworld]

Not that it matters, but...the know it alls will tell you it is all figured in. And while it is correct, that the union does not recognize the numbers, in my local they absolutely did nothing to stop the constant harrassment over them. I never enjoyed it like some do.

I knew it was bogus early on when a sup rode with me and he put a code into the ojs spot in the diad with his Initials….to be able to run scratch for the day. They are pretty much the biggest lie that the company spews…when they would ignore drivers working unsafe and speeding, accidents and injuries to get better productivity out of someone is when the whole system is rotted as hell..and most management who have been here for any amount of time would absolutely agree..

 

[clean hairy]

Best answer to the original post I feel would have been:
"The company production numbers mean nothing, as production is not a part of the contract!"
Then refer op to "fair days work for fair days pay" as all that matters.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The UPS time allowance and bonus are very complicated mathematical formulas explained in these two
Internal technical videos

 

[Poop Head]

Allowed. A loud. Joe Biden sucks.

 

[Poop Head]

Tinder has pretty much ruined time allowances.

 

[AKCoverMan]

You have a bricked out car…automatically a variance for selection….my truck in pkg was bulked out almost every day… I begged them to go out with me and they refused…they knew that I had the proof that the loads were crap and they would have to take off some resi areas off of me so the 1.5 over was worth it to them..whatever

Flip side was couple of high volume routes one a warehouse and heaven commercial run, the other an air base run, Both loaded by long time, full time inside employee who was an artist. Knew the order of bulk stops and could load the car corked but it would peel like an onion,

But god help you if he was on vaca and you had to cover one of those routes!

 

[Redtag]

that would also be considered M.A.R...aka. Minimum Acceptable Requirement...so the idea is to beat your best performance very time....This applies to every job done by hourly people at ups.....The idea is to constantly improve....This applies to management in the sense that if you are say a pt supervisor and your predecessor ran the area with 8 people you will be expected to run it with 7 then 6.....its a circle chase with no end...darwinism in action...

I get slower every time I work on something. Now management is happy if they just get the tractor back at all.

 

[Shift Inhibit]

I get slower every time I work on something. Now management is happy if they just get the tractor back at all.

Sounds like all the mechanics here. cross my fingers even time I write something up

 

[Redtag]

Sounds like all the mechanics here. cross my fingers even time I write something up

There is only so much stupidity and inefficiency you can work around until you stop caring. I have seen it happen to everyone they hired after me over the years. They come in superheros and within months comes the anger about being blocked in the shop by ops or not having enough bays to work in or the stupid chasing telematics instead of fixing trucks or the million other BS things put in the way of actually doing your job.

I remember at one time I cared.. UPS fixed that. If they cared to fix the inefficient way things working inside the hub then they would fix it. Until then I am perfectly happy doing stupid stuff to fill time because I cant get in or out of the piss poor excuse for a shop that is in the middle of the hub.

The best time at UPS is when you finally accept the stupid and stop trying to fight it.

 

[Shift Inhibit]

There is only so much stupidity and inefficiency you can work around until you stop caring. I have seen it happen to everyone they hired after me over the years. They come in superheros and within months comes the anger about being blocked in the shop by ops or not having enough bays to work in or the stupid chasing telematics instead of fixing trucks or the million other BS things put in the way of actually doing your job.

I remember at one time I cared.. UPS fixed that. If they cared to fix the inefficient way things working inside the hub then they would fix it. Until then I am perfectly happy doing stupid stuff to fill time because I cant get in or out of the piss poor excuse for a shop that is in the middle of the hub.

The best time at UPS is when you finally accept the stupid and stop trying to fight it.

Pretty sure that’s how most hourly employees are after working here a few years.. I don’t give 2 s anymore

 

[ManInBrown]

Dont concern yourself with over under. It’s make believe tooth fairy crap. The only drivers that should ever spend one second thinking about over under are off the streets trying to get a permanent job, and PTers trying to qualify. And even then it’s completely out of your hands so there’s no point in stressing it. When I was brand new I once asked my on car why am I over everyday on the route I was covering. Regular driver was out on disability and they parked me on it. Terrible route. His response was don’t worry about over under. Superman couldn’t scratch that route. Time studies on routes were done 20-30 years ago. They are completely irrelevant today. Every single factor of doing the job has changed and none of those changes have been factored in.

 

[iruhnman630]

I think they use this thing....

 

[Made brown]

This may also be the method.

 

[Coldworld]

Best answer to the original post I feel would have been:
"The company production numbers mean nothing, as production is not a part of the contract!"
Then refer op to "fair days work for fair days pay" as all that matters.

I’ve heard sups say “you make 40 bucks an hour now…we want a 40 dollar per hour fair days work from you…”…. or the “you make more than the competition, you need to perform better every time than the competition”… lol ok pops