I Voted No

[UnionStrong]

There is a portion of the Teamsters membership that voted for SOB not because they believed in his leadership and ability to negotiate a strong contract but rather to have a blank check to go on strike. SOB was merely a vehicle by which to get back at the company for the injustices committed during COVID and beyond.

I'm just not sure exactly what you hope to gain out of this scorched Earth policy. SOB has already said they've squeezed every drop out of the UPS orange. We've got idiots in our center voting no "just to spite UPS."

What sort of mentality is that?

A very childish mentality. All too common these days, unfortunately.

 

[Bag_Tosser]

How's UPS going to move the packages without us?? They can't find enough people in a year much less a few weeks.

Have you seen the interest spike in working at UPS? We're all replaceable.

UPS Job Searches Surge After Union Deal Significantly Boosts Wages

Searches for “UPS” and “United Parcel Service” spiked in the two weeks following the UPS-Teamsters deal.

www.google.com

 

[PoirotAtUPS]

I thought it would be highly unlikely that I would vote no.
Reason 1. Pension concessions. This is a deal breaker. Is there no one advising this guy that you don't give up anything when it comes to one of the main pillars of a union contract? What did we get for this massive gift to the company. Ridiculously high wages for people a majority of which will be gone within a couple of years as they have no intention of having a career at UPS. Was this a nod to Amazon people? If it was SOB needs to be removed next election.

Part time wage proposal should be reduced by %75 and dispersed among full timers and pension should return to at least status quo. UPS part timers already have it better than anybody else. I can say this because if it hadn't been for 22.4 I would still be part time.

The next two im just piling on.

I would like to see option days and sick days paid like vacation days 1/52.

I oppose the non gendered language. Such BS that this was an issue. Boys have p3nis3s girls have vaginas. In your personal life you can play make believe however you want. No one should have to participate in peoples delusions.

Do you really expect a better deal? Seriously - $49 per hour is strong.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Have you seen the interest spike in working at UPS? We're all replaceable.

UPS Job Searches Surge After Union Deal Significantly Boosts Wages

Searches for “UPS” and “United Parcel Service” spiked in the two weeks following the UPS-Teamsters deal.

www.google.com

Until they work 5 minutes

If I had a dollar for every driver they got disqualified because they couldn't do this job I will be very rich

 

[Crosscutters]

I understand part timers here voting no as they are tired of forced 6th punches. And now that drivers can’t be and they still can and will be at the holidays, I really see them voting no. Double standards are never easy to explain especially when both part timers and full timers pay 2 1/2 times their hourly rate in dues. Another words, a higher percentage for not even the same rights.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I understand part timers here voting no as they are tired of forced 6th punches. And now that drivers can’t be and they still can and will be at the holidays, I really see them voting no. Double standards are never easy to explain especially when both part timers and full timers pay 2 1/2 times their hourly rate in dues. Another words, a higher percentage for not even the same rights.

But they feel to realize they're getting full-time healthcare

 

[Crosscutters]

I’ve tried explain that. And it’s true. But another wrong isn’t corrected by another right. I will say they don’t even let part timers bid work weeks here. If we have 30 working a preload on a Monday , they will use the top 20ish. Then ask for volunteers. They then force numbers 20- 70 to work Saturday. They don’t do that for full timers . Why part timers? I don’t know what to say to that. And having great healthcare shouldn’t mean you don’t have other rights.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I’ve tried explain that. And it’s true. But another wrong isn’t corrected by another right. I will say they don’t even let part timers bid work weeks here. If we have 30 working a prelims on a Monday , they will use the top 20ish. Then ask for volunteers. They then force numbers 20- 70 to work Saturday. They don’t do that for full timers . Why part timers? I don’t know what to say to that. And having great healthcare shouldn’t mean you don’t have other rights.

There is a big difference between working 4 hours a day 6 days a week and working 10 hours a day 6 days a week

 

[Thebrownblob]

Have you seen the interest spike in working at UPS? We're all replaceable.

UPS Job Searches Surge After Union Deal Significantly Boosts Wages

Searches for “UPS” and “United Parcel Service” spiked in the two weeks following the UPS-Teamsters deal.

www.google.com

Certainly, everybody is “replaceable” but just because people are interested does it mean they can do the job, we seen them come and go. This job is not a race or a sprint. It’s a slog and a grind. Most people would have no interest after a very short time. As we’ve seen.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Certainly, everybody is “replaceable” but just because people are interested does it mean they can do the job, we seen them come and go. This job is not a race or a sprint. It’s a slog and a grind. Most people would have no interest after a very short time. As we’ve seen.

I still have no interest...

 

[Bag_Tosser]

Certainly, everybody is “replaceable” but just because people are interested does it mean they can do the job, we seen them come and go. This job is not a race or a sprint. It’s a slog and a grind. Most people would have no interest after a very short time. As we’ve seen.

I'm not arguing against what you're saying. You're absolutely correct.
That said, will the UPS bean counters see it the same way?

 

[Trucker Clock]

Certainly, everybody is “replaceable” but just because people are interested does it mean they can do the job, we seen them come and go. This job is not a race or a sprint. It’s a slog and a grind. Most people would have no interest after a very short time. As we’ve seen.

30,000 Yellow employees looking for a job.

Would the 22,000 Teamsters out of a job scab at UPS? Interesting question.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I'm not arguing against what you're saying. You're absolutely correct.
That said, will the UPS bean counters see it the same way?

I think they did eventually.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think they did eventually.

 

[Thebrownblob]

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Quit stealing my Jane Wyman!!

 

[UnionStrong]

Quit stealing my Jane Wyman!!

That was Reagan’s first love.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That was Reagan’s first love.

The Gipper got her nipper

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Quit stealing my Jane Wyman!!

No

 

[Thebrownblob]

No

er

 

[RTS313]

Certainly, everybody is “replaceable” but just because people are interested does it mean they can do the job, we seen them come and go. This job is not a race or a sprint. It’s a slog and a grind. Most people would have no interest after a very short time. As we’ve seen.

The non paying dues members should give up their jobs!
yellow dues paying members want a job