I Voted No

[Coldworld]

No

Quit stealing my 4Lokos bitch!!

Nope

 

[Coldworld]

The non paying dues members should give up their jobs!
yellow dues paying members want a job

Just so they can come over here and bitch about the progression even thought they drive new tractors and getting good healthcare and pension contributions from day one. Don’t want to blanket statement here but the 20+ yellow drivers that came over to ups are some of the most entitled whiners I’ve ever met in feeder.

 

[100%]

I voted yes. But the biggest raise thing is only because of inflation and the price gouging UPS has done. Not because the union “fought”

yet you make more money than all of your friends, and require no degree. Learn from the past. The future isn’t insane volume like it has been the last 3 years.

Is having a degree suppose to mean something? Is that some way to try and make someone feel small to you? If you have a degree today…you’re most likely an idiot and can’t think for themselves. That’s what a degree gets you today. If you get a degree and become a teacher what does that mean?

 

[Wally]

If you get a degree and become a teacher what does that mean?

Non-stop beotching about how you are underpaid even thought you work less days than @Future.

 

[Turdferguson]

If you get a degree and become a teacher what does that mean?

That you have a passion for teaching and want to help educate people, more than likely because someone got a teaching degree before and had a positive impact on your life and you were inspired to attempt to do the same........yeah what a bunch of losers ,trying to inspire others like you were

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

That you have a passion for teaching and want to help educate people, more than likely because someone got a teaching degree before and had a positive impact on your life and you were inspired to attempt to do the same........yeah what a bunch of losers ,trying to inspire others like you were

That's a very rose colored glasses way to look at the teaching field. You don't need a teaching degree to be a teacher, plenty of them just ended up there because it's a job.

 

[Turdferguson]

That's a very rose colored glasses way to look at the teaching field. You don't need a teaching degree to be a teacher, plenty of them just ended up there because it's a job.

And that is very cynical way of looking at teachers, I guess im just a optimistic hopeful person and you are pessimistic poopy pants...to rach their own

 

[rebelsss]

UPS tactic. Lower the volume, lose volume to competitors. Have everyone scared of voting down the TA. For me, being lucky to be hired as 22.4, now becoming an rpcd, and only a few years away from top rate; I can't complain, I am grateful. Voted Yes.

 

[Thebrownblob]

UPS tactic. Lower the volume, lose volume to competitors. Have everyone scared of voting down the TA. For me, being lucky to be hired as 22.4, now becoming an rpcd, and only a few years away from top rate; I can't complain, I am grateful. Voted Yes.

Could’ve been their tactic, but I don’t think we lost much volume due to the contract as we did to a general downtown. Freight is significantly down. And apparently any volume diverted to FedEx has not help them just Google FedEx layoffs

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

And that is very cynical way of looking at teachers, I guess im just a optimistic hopeful person and you are pessimistic poopy pants...to rach their own

More like I know what I'm talking about and you watch too much TV.

 

[Lineandinitial]

UPS tactic. Lower the volume, lose volume to competitors. Have everyone scared of voting down the TA. For me, being lucky to be hired as 22.4, now becoming an rpcd, and only a few years away from top rate; I can't complain, I am grateful. Voted Yes.

LOL....Did you learn this at the Wharton School?

 

[upschuck]

That's a very rose colored glasses way to look at the teaching field. You don't need a teaching degree to be a teacher, plenty of them just ended up there because it's a job.

In my state, you don't need a teaching degree to be substitute teacher, but you do need a certain amount of hours completed towards an education degree. To be a teacher, you need to have one, or be in a Masters program for education.

So, not anybody off the street can walk off the street and become a teacher, as you are insinuating.

 

[Turdferguson]

More like I know what I'm talking about and you watch too much TV.

Your right I forgot your vast knowledge of virology, finance, law, and education....A true Renaissance Man slinging cardboard and driving a truck for living

 

[DOK]

I thought it would be highly unlikely that I would vote no.
Reason 1. Pension concessions. This is a deal breaker. Is there no one advising this guy that you don't give up anything when it comes to one of the main pillars of a union contract? What did we get for this massive gift to the company. Ridiculously high wages for people a majority of which will be gone within a couple of years as they have no intention of having a career at UPS. Was this a nod to Amazon people? If it was SOB needs to be removed next election.

Part time wage proposal should be reduced by %75 and dispersed among full timers and pension should return to at least status quo. UPS part timers already have it better than anybody else. I can say this because if it hadn't been for 22.4 I would still be part time.

The next two im just piling on.

I would like to see option days and sick days paid like vacation days 1/52.

I oppose the non gendered language. Such BS that this was an issue. Boys have p3nis3s girls have vaginas. In your personal life you can play make believe however you want. No one should have to participate in peoples delusions.

Our vacations aren’t paid at 1/52 that’s a supplement issue. After reading countless NO vote threads/reasons it seems everyone has a different reason for voting NO.
It’s not perfect but it’s a good contract going in the right direction meant to be built upon in further contracts. You’ll never get everything you want and please every single person in every contract.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Your right I forgot your vast knowledge of virology, finance, law, and education....A true Renaissance Man slinging cardboard and driving a truck for living

More like I know actual teachers, and you've watched too many reruns of Welcome Back Cotter.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

So, not anybody off the street can walk off the street and become a teacher, as you are insinuating.

I did not insinuate that.

In my state, you don't need a teaching degree to be substitute teacher, but you do need a certain amount of hours completed towards an education degree. To be a teacher, you need to have one, or be in a Masters program for education.

There's these things called cars and airplanes that help you get to other states. Just so you know.

 

[dogs.bite.me]

New England will vote yes. Probably the south too.

I voted yes on master no on the south

 

[Thebrownblob]

Our vacations aren’t paid at 1/52 that’s a supplement issue. After reading countless NO vote threads/reasons it seems everyone has a different reason for voting NO.
It’s not perfect but it’s a good contract going in the right direction meant to be built upon in further contracts. You’ll never get everything you want and please every single person in every contract.

Yep that’s been my issue with the “no voters” all along. There is no one issue, that the union can coalesce around, they would basically have to renegotiate the whole contract. It’s not gonna happen. This is overall a good contract. Does it have deficiencies? of course. The biggest efficiency was telling us there was not going to be any concessions of any kind. Anyone with half a brain would know how actual negotiations work anyway.

 

[upschuck]

I did not insinuate that.

There's these things called cars and airplanes that help you get to other states. Just so you know.

That speaks a lot to why you are how you are.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

That speaks a lot to why you are how you are.

Because of airplanes?