Insight on coworkers claiming harassment? On Topic

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
I always felt I was responsible for my own safety the yellow tape is a joke I've seen more O/70s without yellow tape than with. So with that being said you test weight before lifting
It's not that hard
We've had 2 injuries the last month because packages got away from guys. Both assumed the package was lighter than it was.


And both times it was the preloaders fault. You may take responsibility, but a lot do not
 

upschuck

Well-Known Member
We've had 2 injuries the last month because packages got away from guys. Both assumed the package was lighter than it was.


And both times it was the preloaders fault. You may take responsibility, but a lot do not
Know a guy that puts the weight of the package in that yellow tape.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
We've had 2 injuries the last month because packages got away from guys. Both assumed the package was lighter than it was.


And both times it was the preloaders fault. You may take responsibility, but a lot do not

See if there was no yellow tape you'd need to test every box. But you've got people trained that if no yellow tape then it's not O/70. And we both know not every O/70 is going to get the tape
 

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
See if there was no yellow tape you'd need to test every box. But you've got people trained that if no yellow tape then it's not O/70. And we both know not every O/70 is going to get the tape
If they aren't testing the weight of every package they aren't following the methods.

The tape is an extra layer of caution.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
Yeah and then when the driver gets hurt and we ask if he tested the weight you guys complain that we are trying to get out of paying a claim
UPS is paying a claim weather it's the employees fault or not. I believe you are confusing UPS trumpeting safety when in reality they care about numbers not people
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
This is already resolved and over with but I am still curious of the possible outcome that could have happened because I, in my mind, don't think I did anything wrong.

So am I a FT driver on the safety committee (please save your safety committee jokes) and this happened with a preloader who I've worked with for 3+ years and never had a problem with. So a few weeks back on I believe a Tuesday I was doing my daily check of the cars to look for over 70s that needed tape. So I come across this one car with a hazmat package loaded on top of 2 other boxes that looked like it was about to fall over. I told the preloader about it and that it should be properly loaded and all he does it take the hazmat and place it on the floor without loading it securely and bracing it and then starts walking away.

I can't tell at this point if he's just messing around but I told him he should know how to properly load a hazmat it needs to be loaded correctly. So all he does is walk to the car, pull down the rear door closing it, and walk away. So now I know he's probably in a bad mood so I just walk to the PT sup and let me know what happened (I have since realized this is not the proper thing to do and I won't do it again) and ask him to direct the preloader to do his job correctly for the safety of the driver.

The next day the preloader comes up to me and is asking why I had to "taddle tale" on him and I simply responded that if he did his job right to begin with then nothing would have ever happened. So obviously now he is bitter toward me and I can understand why. So Thursday I am again doing my job checking for over 70s and I see an over 70 oragmi cabinet box in the middle of a car which the preloader from before loaded. So I walk into the car and at the time the driver of the route was in the car. As soon as I walk in to tape the box, the preloader follows me in the car and just blurts out "move" and I tell him "I have to tape this box real quick" being how I entered the car before him I should be able to do one simple thing? He responds "Get the friend%$# out of my way, I'm stacked out" and this is all in front of the other driver.

So I kept my cool and scooted forward out of his way and talked to the driver for a few minutes because he was blocking me in while he was loading. During this time he was just grabbing boxes and throwing them on the shelves so I could tell he was upset. Finally he moved to a different car and I taped the over 70 and moved on down the belt.

I think nothing of it until the next day our steward says he needs to talk to me about this preloader but the preloader is saying I am harassing him! So I tell him my side of the story and he lets me know we will have to go in the center manager's office. So I tell the center manager the same story and he says the preloader tells the same story almost and admits to cursing at me and everything. So the center manager calls the preloader in the office and lays everything out and asks us to bury it then and there and not to let it escalate. He asks if I felt harassed and I replied "Not at all" then he asks the preloader the same question and he replies "I do not wish to file harassment charges anymore" and in my mind I'm thinking "No :censored2: you :censored2: because I didn't harass you, you are just being a cry sack"

So we shake hands and that was the end of it. So obviously I don't see how I did anything wrong except how I handled the whole hazmat situation, but I would like to get some outside perspective. Do you think I in any way was harassing this preloader? I don't take this kind of thing lightly so I want to make sure I am not displaying any signs of harassment unintentionally because I know it could put my job on the line.

Does the preload not have a safety committee? Why did you feel the need to go to management and have them talk to the preloader and not report this "dangerous "situation to his safety committee to have them talk to the loader in question. I could see where a driver constantly going into a preloaders load could be considered harassment
 

Whatbrownwontdoforyou

Well-Known Member
It's not. I did not mean to supervise or attempt to have any false authority. I saw a legit safety issue and pointed it out TWICE.
It's not hard to understand ups doesn't care about safety they care about safety numbers.....the safety committee is a joke.....just go in hand out some fruit,water and a paper with some safety slogan on it......and earn the ot ups is giving away other than that you have no authority you or any other union employee isn't allowed to instruct the workforce
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
It's not. I did not mean to supervise or attempt to have any false authority. I saw a legit safety issue and pointed it out TWICE.
How many times do you think that haz mat had been flipped upside down ,crushed between packages on a belt , and dropped on the ground. That ain't no "legitimate safety issue, and either is the over 70 tape. Pull your lips off of the brown Kool aid safety tit and get real
 

coolaid63

New Member
I realize you like the extra time and money for participating on the safety committee. I am also sure you take pride in what you are doing but all you are really doing is work that supervisors should be doing. This company preaches safety safety safety as long as is doesn't get in the way of production then safety doesn't matter. Just a dog and pony show all the way around. After all they discontinued safe driving awards to cut cost then turned around and gave the CEO millions more in pay.
 
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