Maybe now is the right time to organize

bacha29

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I have a limited understanding of FedEx's business model. That being said I know they employ a large amount of private contractors making an organized large scale strike near impossible.

What cards strike would have is that fed ex is bleeding right now as it is due to its loss of it's amazon contract putting a dent in it's share of the market. Covid and the holiday season combined will create the most busy shipping season this side of the century. In that regard it would be a heavy blow if fed ex workers struck.

That said, fed ex employees make up only one piece of the equation. Companies employ people to come up with protocols for any eventuality. I gurrentee you bean counters some where have already put together a marketing campaign for new (insert group of striking workers here) for a slightly higher pay rate or one time hiring bonus. All that the strikers would accomplish is becoming unemployed in a recession- boarder line depression economy. This would result in very little loss for FedEx financially as a company that large can absorb a blow of that size, and maybe it will cause a for a while as the story circles the news cycle but other than that any attempt won't even warrent a footnote in FedEx's
At Ground it's almost failsafe as far as an antiunion setup . About the only thing that might be able to happen is that a very high percentage of the total number of contractor employed drivers within a union local's geographical boundaries simultaneously and unexpectedly vote to go union and within a key metropolitan area that would really put a lick on FXG's peak season operations.

What I have noticed however is an uptick in the number of contracts big an small coming on the market. Perhaps a growing number of contractors are not willing to go through another hellish peak season similar to last year with too much freight .an over sold service , nowhere enough manpower no matter where they looked , leaving them with no choice but to once again have to pile it outside and throw a tarp over it....and didn't even have enough of those.
 

dmac1

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About the only thing that might be able to happen is that a very high percentage of the total number of contractor employed drivers within a union local's geographical boundaries simultaneously and unexpectedly vote to go union

Too bad that a vote to go union can't really be done secretly. I believe the NLRB pretty much makes it a public event.
 

bacha29

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Firemen can -and do- let fires burn if they are deemed too dangerous.
Let me try to help you. The question is in regard to responding to a fire. It is not about the best way to contain the fire and the danger is represents. Something that cannot be dome until the call is responded to. That's where the term "first responders" comes in.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
Let me try to help you. The question is in regard to responding to a fire. It is not about the best way to contain the fire and the danger is represents. Something that cannot be dome until the call is responded to. That's where the term "first responders" comes in.

Responding to the call and battling the fire are two different things. They don't have to battle it. Get out of the jing weeds once in a while, there's a whole 'nother world out there.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Responding to the call and battling the fire are two different things. They don't have to battle it. Get out of the jing weeds once in a while, there's a whole 'nother world out there.
All you did was simply repeat what I said in my previous post and I'm happy to see that you finally got it. You finally came to understand that the focus was the legally binding obligation of a chartered and licensed fire company to at least respond to the call.

In my area where fire companies are all volunteer, the call first goes to the nearest station. If they don't head out within a certain time period the call shifts to the next closest station. And a growing problem for them is confined smokers on oxygen. Small ,unnoticed leak, light up a smoke and it's "hasta lavista , baby".

Now let's get back to the topic at hand.
 

dmac1

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Firemen can -and do- let fires burn if they are deemed too dangerous.
That's just a deflection from your ignorant reply. Your neighbors have as much right to a response from a public fire department as you do. That is socialism. Every time you say something completely ignorant and get caught, you change , or try to change your original claim.

And there is ZERO reason your neighbors should not have the right to the same access to healthcare as you have. If we can let people like Trump pay nothing in taxes, we can afford to provide quality care for EVERYONE.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
That's just a deflection from your ignorant reply. Your neighbors have as much right to a response from a public fire department as you do. That is socialism. Every time you say something completely ignorant and get caught, you change , or try to change your original claim.

And there is ZERO reason your neighbors should not have the right to the same access to healthcare as you have. If we can let people like Trump pay nothing in taxes, we can afford to provide quality care for EVERYONE.
What is the basis for your claim to someone else's wealth?
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Ok answer this question. Should healthcare including prenatal and post natal care be the exclusive domain the wealthiest people?
Quick answer, no. That said, I don’t believe that insurance coverage should include any and all available procedures. There should be a standard of care available to all at a universal premium . There are extravagantly expensive treatments that would not be included.
This is an oversimplification, but it’s a start.
 

It will be fine

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Quick answer, no. That said, I don’t believe that insurance coverage should include any and all available procedures. There should be a standard of care available to all at a universal premium . There are extravagantly expensive treatments that would not be included.
This is an oversimplification, but it’s a start.
That sounds like socialism. Did you hit your head? You’re advocating for a public option. Welcome aboard, pinko.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
All you did was simply repeat what I said in my previous post and I'm happy to see that you finally got it. You finally came to understand that the focus was the legally binding obligation of a chartered and licensed fire company to at least respond to the call.

In my area where fire companies are all volunteer, the call first goes to the nearest station. If they don't head out within a certain time period the call shifts to the next closest station. And a growing problem for them is confined smokers on oxygen. Small ,unnoticed leak, light up a smoke and it's "hasta lavista , baby".

Now let's get back to the topic at hand.

I think you're confused, boy.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
That's just a deflection from your ignorant reply. Your neighbors have as much right to a response from a public fire department as you do. That is socialism. Every time you say something completely ignorant and get caught, you change , or try to change your original claim.

My reply was that a fire department has no obligation to fight any particular fire.

And there is ZERO reason your neighbors should not have the right to the same access to healthcare as you have.

Sure there is. There is not an abundance of higher quality care that's capable of covering everyone who wants it. Tell me, how should it be determined who gets that higher quality care?
 

bacha29

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My reply was that a fire department has no obligation to fight any particular fire.



Sure there is. There is not an abundance of higher quality care that's capable of covering everyone who wants it. Tell me, how should it be determined who gets that higher quality care?
The may choose not to fight it it but they are still required to respond to the call and make their best attempt to protect lives and property according to long established fire fighting rules and protocols.
 
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