UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Did you miss the part where he was clearly directed not to punch out as he was needed to run off a misload?
No discipline for going back out after in for the night...
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Did you miss the part where he was clearly directed not to punch out as he was needed to run off a misload?
BUCN85
Well-Known Member
OuchYou poor guy, it's just not your year. First the Pirates suck then the 9.5 problems now forced to go out again. I'm sorry I feel some what responsible since it's my Cubs contributing to your woes.
35years
Gravy route
No,
Did you miss the part where he was told to return to the building to get the misload?
Once you return to the bldg in the Central you can not be made to go back out if you have worked 8 hrs. If he has a misload out on his truck...yes. If he is directed to get a misload from another truck...yes.
But returning to the bldg is a different situation. Any pkgs left in the bldg after one's shift are considered extra work since anyone can run them. This extra work can be done by any driver who returns to the bldg. and so is to be given in seniority order by those present and available. The wording in the Central supplement is to address this very issue.
oldngray
nowhere special
Depends on the local language. I was in Central and they couldn't make you go back out after you returned to the building .... unless they send you a message telling you that you would have to go back out before you got back to the building. In that situation you would have to go back out.
Sounds like an easy loophole. I'd be inclined to file anyway and point out how they're attempting to circumvent the language of the contract, which they agreed to. That's not to say that it would have a chance, but still...
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
Easiest money ever.
"I'm back in the building".
"OK, I need you to go back out to do -xyz".
"OK, I need to find a truck, no way in heck I'm taking that 1200 out for one stop, also, if I did, I wouldn't be able to re-park it".
"Great, there's a bunch of 700's outside, take one of those".
Copy.
Sixty minutes of overtime to chase one stop?
Yes sir.
"I'm back in the building".
"OK, I need you to go back out to do -xyz".
"OK, I need to find a truck, no way in heck I'm taking that 1200 out for one stop, also, if I did, I wouldn't be able to re-park it".
"Great, there's a bunch of 700's outside, take one of those".
Copy.
Sixty minutes of overtime to chase one stop?
Yes sir.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
If you're back at the building you say no and go home.
If they send you a message that there is work for you at the building you're kind of up
s creek.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
You're wrong on this. If he's informed of the work while he's still out then he has to take the work.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
35years
Gravy route
Are you in the Central?
I prefaced my answers by stating IF you are in the Central. And I quoted the Central Region language.
I am in the Central, and I have encountered this exact situation. Drivers in other areas (such as Upstate) have different language.
Perhaps BUG can chime in here; I am always ready to admit if I am wrong.
However, I have encountered this exact situation. After already being out over 8 hours, I was told I had to pick up stops at the bldg. and run them off (text received while on area). I refused, quoting the Central Region language. I checked with my BA or steward (can't remember which) and he confirmed that if I had to go back to the bldg to get the stops, I could refuse to go back out. Management did not try to discipline me. Perhaps no one has challenged management on this, at your location.
That being said, you have to take stops from other drivers etc., if directed, if you have not returned to the bldg.
scooby0048
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I am in Central and if they can catch us b4 we make it back to property, then we have to go back out (even if extra stuff is at building). Work as directed. Once on grounds they are told to pound sand.
35years
Gravy route
Well at our location we can and do refuse. I don't see anything in the wording (that I posted above) that says anything to the effect of "unless we contact you before you return to the bldg."
Management can maintain that you have to go back out, but that does not mean it is true.
Any BAs on the forum from the Central?
All I know is we don't have to go back out after 8 hrs even if they text or call us on area.
Management can maintain that you have to go back out, but that does not mean it is true.
Any BAs on the forum from the Central?
All I know is we don't have to go back out after 8 hrs even if they text or call us on area.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I'm in the central and you're lucky. BA has told me directly if they catch you before you're back tough luck you have to go back out.
barnyard
KTM rider
In my building, those guys all go out with 11 hour dispatches or they come in 1+ hours early and help the preload wrap AND have heavy dispatches.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
The difference here is you have a 35 year driver and another (OP) with less than a year.
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
You are right and wrong. If they tell you while you are still on area, and get back and refuse, they will fire you, but you will, get your job back, isn't it fun working here?????
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
It's the same here. Our guys can't wait to get off the clock.
