Operation changes

[OVER95ER]

The center I'm in now runs about 42 routes a day. They're talking about taking 12 routes out of our building and moving it to the next County what happens if I do not follow the work will I still be full-time.

 

[Mugarolla]

The center I'm in now runs about 42 routes a day. They're talking about taking 12 routes out of our building and moving it to the next County what happens if I do not follow the work will I still be full-time.

Once you go FT, there is no going back to PT. Some supplements allow you to bump 2 PTers if you are laid off.

Your question should be, will I still have a job or will I be laid off?

That depends on who, and how many follow the jobs.

If nobody above you follows the jobs and 12 drivers below you follow the jobs, you could be laid off for a long time depending on where you are in seniority.

 

[Indecisi0n]

You can either follow the route or become a split driver at your current center.

 

[Rick Ross]

If nobody above you follows the jobs and 12 drivers below you follow the jobs, you could be laid off for a long time depending on where you are in seniority

How long do UPS teamsters stay active for recall?

I was under 2 different UAW contracts and recall rights in both were only guaranteed for the same amount of time you were employed. Three years seniority and they only had to recall you for three years after being laid off. Any time over that three years they could skip you and hire new employees.

 

[Mugarolla]

How long do UPS teamsters stay active for recall?

I was under 2 different UAW contracts and recall rights in both were only guaranteed for the same amount of time you were employed. Three years seniority and they only had to recall you for three years after being laid off. Any time over that three years they could skip you and hire new employees.

Central Region Supplement
Article 3
Section 3

The seniority of an employee shall be considered broken for the following
reasons, and the employee shall be considered terminated:

(c) if the employee is laid off for a period of three (3) years or
his/her length of seniority, whichever is less.

Western Region Supplement
Article 4
SECTION 4 - TERMINATION OF SENIORITY

Seniority shall be terminated upon discharge for cause, voluntary
termination of employment, retirement, failure to return to work
within seventy-two (72) hours following the date an employee on
layoff receives a certified letter of recall mailed to the employees
last known address, being placed on layoff for a period of three (3)
consecutive years provided the employee has two or more years of
seniority and for a period of two (2) years if the employee has less
than two (2) years seniority, and failure to return to work at the expiration
of an approved leave of absence.

Southern Region Supplement
Article 48
SECTION 2 – LOSS OF SENIORITY

Seniority shall be broken only by discharge for cause, voluntary
quit, layoff for a period of three (3) years from the last date of
employment, failure to respond to notice of recall, or unauthorized
leave of absence.

New England Supplement
Article 57
Section 6 - Loss of Seniority

6. Layoff in excess of six (6) years.

Northern California Supplement
Article 3
SECTION 2 - APPLICATION OF SENIORITY

Seniority shall be considered broken by:

(c) Twenty-four (24) consecutive months of unemployment; thirty-
six (36) consecutive months of unemployment for employees
with three (3) or more years of service

Metro Philadelphia Supplement
Article 50
SECTION 5 -GENERAL
(a) Seniority shall be broken only by failure to report for work for
three (3) consecutive days (no call no show), discharge, voluntary
quit or more than a three (3) year layoff.

 

[Coldworld]

The center I'm in now runs about 42 routes a day. They're talking about taking 12 routes out of our building and moving it to the next County what happens if I do not follow the work will I still be full-time.

How long have you been here???

 

[Rick Ross]

Central Region Supplement
Article 3
Section 3

The seniority of an employee shall be considered broken for the following
reasons, and the employee shall be considered terminated:

(c) if the employee is laid off for a period of three (3) years or
his/her length of seniority, whichever is less.

Western Region Supplement
Article 4
SECTION 4 - TERMINATION OF SENIORITY

Seniority shall be terminated upon discharge for cause, voluntary
termination of employment, retirement, failure to return to work
within seventy-two (72) hours following the date an employee on
layoff receives a certified letter of recall mailed to the employees
last known address, being placed on layoff for a period of three (3)
consecutive years provided the employee has two or more years of
seniority and for a period of two (2) years if the employee has less
than two (2) years seniority, and failure to return to work at the expiration
of an approved leave of absence.

Southern Region Supplement
Article 48
SECTION 2 – LOSS OF SENIORITY

Seniority shall be broken only by discharge for cause, voluntary
quit, layoff for a period of three (3) years from the last date of
employment, failure to respond to notice of recall, or unauthorized
leave of absence.

New England Supplement
Article 57
Section 6 - Loss of Seniority

6. Layoff in excess of six (6) years.

Northern California Supplement
Article 3
SECTION 2 - APPLICATION OF SENIORITY

Seniority shall be considered broken by:

(c) Twenty-four (24) consecutive months of unemployment; thirty-
six (36) consecutive months of unemployment for employees
with three (3) or more years of service

Metro Philadelphia Supplement
Article 50
SECTION 5 -GENERAL
(a) Seniority shall be broken only by failure to report for work for
three (3) consecutive days (no call no show), discharge, voluntary
quit or more than a three (3) year layoff.

Sorry for all the work...You made me feel lazy.

Thanks!

 

[Wally]

The center I'm in now runs about 42 routes a day. They're talking about taking 12 routes out of our building and moving it to the next County what happens if I do not follow the work will I still be full-time.

Follow the work dummy. Then, get on the transfer list.

Another option is to move near the other building.

 

[Mugarolla]

Sorry for all the work...You made me feel lazy.

Thanks!

It is cold outside and I was just sitting here watching the boob tube.

It is not hard to copy and paste.

I didn't check them all, just some of the major ones. I'm sure there are a few with no language on how long. I did not go that far,

You're welcome!

 

[Ms.PacMan]

Our bldg had this happen. Drivers could follow their route or give it up. Two drivers gave up their route and those routes went up for bid in the current center.

idk what would have happened if no one bid those route?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Our bldg had this happen. Drivers could follow their route or give it up. Two drivers gave up their route and those routes went up for bid in the current center.

idk what would have happened if no one bid those route?

The lowest qualified drivers would be forced to take them.

 

[JackStraw]

My route went to another bldg 20 years ago. I went with it. Longer(miles) but shorter(time) commute and because it was a new bldg, seniority was dove-tailed.

 

[barnyard]

Take a look at your area. If there is a lot of growth happening, routes may be moving out to make room in your current center for more local routes. We have had routes move out of my building twice. The last 3 moved 2.5 years ago. Right now, we are streeting the same number of routes we did 3 years ago.

 

[clean hairy]

My route went to another bldg 20 years ago. I went with it. Longer(miles) but shorter(time) commute and because it was a new bldg, seniority was dove-tailed.

Dove tailed means if you were #1 on your seniority list with xx amount of years, and at the new building, no one had more years than you, you were still #1 at the new building in seniority?

 

[Jones]

Dove tailed means if you were #1 on your seniority list with xx amount of years, and at the new building, no one had more years than you, you were still #1 at the new building in seniority?

Correct.

 

[Mugarolla]

Dove tailed means if you were #1 on your seniority list with xx amount of years, and at the new building, no one had more years than you, you were still #1 at the new building in seniority?

You are where your seniority puts you. In the example you posted, you are correct.

It is different if you transfer or bump to another center because of a layoff.

In these cases, you go to the bottom of the seniority list, with your new seniority date being the day of transfer.