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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Re: Obamanomics

Well, it does match her shoes....

I guess what Baba is alluding to is perception--if we are all tightening our belts why isn't our First Lady doing the same? During the oil spill the Obamas insisted that it was safe to vacation on the Gulf Coast yet chose to vacation elsewhere.

The Obama's are a wealthy family and deserve to reap the fruits of their labors; however, they need to remember that they are under intense scrutiny and it would be good PR to tone things down a bit.
 
bbsam

bbsam

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Re: Obamanomics

So it's about perception? I'd rather the Koch brothers and the George Soros' and the IBT and corporations stop buying our politicians. They can have all the purses they want and vacation whereever the want.
 
trplnkl

trplnkl

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Re: Obamanomics

MrFedEx said:
A Mexican drinks his beer and suddenly throws his glass in the air, pulls out his pistol and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, "In Mexico our glasses so cheap we don't need to drink from the same glass twice."


An Iraqi, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws his glass into the air, pulls out his AK-47 and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, "In Iraq we have so much sand to make glasses that we don't need to drink out of the same glass twice either."


The Texas cowboy, cool as a cucumber, picks up his beer and drinks it, throws his glass into the air, pulls out his pistol and shoots the Mexican and the Iraqi, and catches his glass. He says, "In America we have so many illegal Mexicans and Arabs that we don't have to drink with the same ones twice."

Racist, I'd say "yes"

This is one of many examples. Taken directly from "Lighten UPS". I've chosen not to identify the person who posted it. I say "Imperial Wizard" and it gets killed as a personal attack. I guess it's OK to attack entire races, as evidenced by the above.
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Sorry, pretty weak example of racism. Sorry if you were offended, are you and Illegal Mexican or Arab?
 
wkmac

wkmac

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Re: Obamanomics

bbsam said:
So it's about perception? I'd rather the Koch brothers and the George Soros' and the IBT and corporations stop buying our politicians. They can have all the purses they want and vacation whereever the want.
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I completely agree. So often when it comes to welfare, so many only want to see one side of the equation to begin with. They never realize that the central planning models that shift wealth whether it be in the form of tax allocation redistribution, using debt creation to give money to corp interests or just outright writing law that protects certain industry players thus cartelizing if not outright monopolizing that market segment while at the same time acting as a entry barrier to new competition. If you take a locale and extract it's wealth out for the benefit of a large corp. distant player, what are the effects on that locale community? What happens to it's own business model and business creation? With wealth and capital being extracted out by force, how do they maintain sustainability? Who must they then go beg to in order to survive? Who is able to use it as a poster child for their own political gain? Oh and most important, did they fail as a result on their own actions and own doing?

I blame both the left and the right for not thinking this thing out more and in effect this hollow thinking sustains the very political/economic order that creates the entire cycle to begin with. That capitalist socialism has been going on in this country a very long time and it's the reason wealth is more consolidated, the profits and shareprice on Wall Street go higher while mainstreet grows weaker and the gov't no matter which party controls it justs gets bigger.

As to the Koch Bros. IMO they are just as much in the bed of capitalist socialism as Soros, it's nothing more than one noble battling another noble for land and more peasantry. Some liberals have been talking about the Koch Bros. and some of that analysis does have merit. Across some elements of the libertarian movement, the Koch Bros. are not seen in a good light either and David Gordon at Mises discusses the long dispute between the Koch's and the late libertarian radical Murray Rothbard.

The late libertarian radical Samuel Konkin term the word Kochtopus for the Koch's empire and IMO the word is of value.

Koch's and crony capitalism

We need to consider the father of crony capitalism

And when it comes to Obama, at least some people get it!
 
moreluck

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Lue C Fur

Lue C Fur

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Re: Obamanation here today

If this was Bush then the Liberal media would be going nuts. I actually hope the Messiah keeps it up...it helps seal his fate in 2012. I think we need to see more of Pelosi and Reid too.:happy-very:
 
Lue C Fur

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Babagounj

Babagounj

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Re: Obamanation here today

(NYDN) — President Obama is headed to Harlem at the end of the month for a $30,800-per-head political cash bash.
Obama’s March 29 fundraiser at the Red Rooster Restaurant on Lenox Avenue will raise ducats for the Democratic National Committee.
The swank soiree in Harlem, an important base of African-American support, is advertised as an intimate six-table affair,Politico.com first reported.
The President will also attend an invitation-only, “Thank You Reception” at the Studio Museum on 125th Street, minus the DNC fundraising.
Darren Rigger, one Harlem fundraiser, raised his eyebrows at the price tag.
“It doesn’t seem like it’s going to be a Harlem event.” Rigger said.
“At $30,000 a plate, it seems like you’re going to see them ship in a lot of Wall Street/CEO/hedge fund types to come visit Harlem like they’re visiting a tourist attraction. The Harlem aspect of it is more symbolic than it is genuine,” Rigger said.
 

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