President Obama!
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klein
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Ofcourse.
Don't matter who is in government. They would have gone up.
It's an industry that's very little regulated when it comes to service charges.
Healthcare is 1 of those items, that don't fall under a budget, or need to budget.
And patients don't care. They think the more tests they receive by a physician, the better he/she is.
However, just adding to the doc's income, while patient thinks it's a free service, paid by insurance.
1989
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I agree, at a DOT physical I had blood in my urine and was advised to see a urologist. Went to the urologist, he tested my urine and found blood. Then he stuck a scope up to check my bladder (ouch, I still have nightmares) Then had a CT scan. Then an ultrasound on my testi's. Only to go back to a CT scan. A couple years later was told by another doctor that it takes 3 days to pass the blood through your system if you are healthy.
So then you agree that the healthcare bill didn't do anything to bend the cost curve?
klein
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Yup, I agree, healtcare reform did very little. Suppose to save $1 Trill over 10 years. But, doubt that. It will be eaten up by higher future medical bills.
On the CNN special this weekend. They even said, it was only a drop in the bucket.
And, the US hasn't seen the end of Healthcare Reform, yet.
It needs to be brought back onto the table !
Just imagine cab companies getting paid the same way doctors and hospitals do:
They wouldn't just pick you up, and drop you off.
They would ask, if you want to do a senic route, perhaps stop at a few stores on the way. If you prefer limo-service, etc.
Don't worry about the bill, insurance covers it.
Or if you placed your pc in repair shop. They would have the system up and working within the hr, but then want to do all sorts of diagnoses, and stress tests... making the final bill extreme.
Thats what differs the US with other countries in regards of healthcare.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100....html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond
Medical Schools Can't Keep Up
As Ranks of Insured Expand, Nation Faces Shortage of 150,000 Doctors in 15 Years
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mon...s-middle-class-with-a-39-billion-tax-increase
Healthcare law to sock middle class with a $3.9 billion tax increase in 2019
Medical Schools Can't Keep Up
As Ranks of Insured Expand, Nation Faces Shortage of 150,000 Doctors in 15 Years
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mon...s-middle-class-with-a-39-billion-tax-increase
Healthcare law to sock middle class with a $3.9 billion tax increase in 2019
tieguy
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Re: Obamanomics
ROFLMAO. this guy has to be jerking our chain no one can be this gullible.
ROFLMAO. this guy has to be jerking our chain no one can be this gullible.
Lue C Fur
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moreluck
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Re: Obamanomics
When Obama was talking about a VAT tax, he used the word, "novel". Something 'novel' to me implies something new, fun, lighthearted......a novelty could be like a toy. This guy is like a pied piper and I'm not following his boogie woogie!!!
Robert Gibbs was still saying today that the president isn't considering a VAT tax. Those 2 need to get their stories straight.
See, when you lie, you have to have a good memory to keep things straight.
When Obama was talking about a VAT tax, he used the word, "novel". Something 'novel' to me implies something new, fun, lighthearted......a novelty could be like a toy. This guy is like a pied piper and I'm not following his boogie woogie!!!
Robert Gibbs was still saying today that the president isn't considering a VAT tax. Those 2 need to get their stories straight.
See, when you lie, you have to have a good memory to keep things straight.
wkmac
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wkmac
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Re: Obamanomics
In March 1972', economist Murray Rothbard wrote an article entitled, "The VAT is not the Answer."
In Oct. 1972' Time Magazine did a story entitled, "Issues: Nixon's Second-Term Plans" where there was speculation that Nixon might use the VAT in his economic policy which we now know he did not. Although this was a republican idea if you will at the time, I clearly remember the VAT being a topic of conversation in that late 1970's thanks to one James Earl Carter who himself a democrat. (No VAT here either) Now it seems the VAT is rumbling again at the expense of one President Obama but yet again I would contend this type tax just like the 70's has a bi-partisan appeal. On the republican side is one Paul Ryan and what he calls his "Business Consuption Tax" which is a VAT in a mask. One provided this time by republicans.
When it comes to gov't and the 2 political parties, very little difference is there once you start digging just a little bit and this goes for new and inventive ideas too. Most everything is just a rehash from something old but re-packaged just to fool the "I'm not looking so don't bother me" masses!
In March 1972', economist Murray Rothbard wrote an article entitled, "The VAT is not the Answer."
In Oct. 1972' Time Magazine did a story entitled, "Issues: Nixon's Second-Term Plans" where there was speculation that Nixon might use the VAT in his economic policy which we now know he did not. Although this was a republican idea if you will at the time, I clearly remember the VAT being a topic of conversation in that late 1970's thanks to one James Earl Carter who himself a democrat. (No VAT here either) Now it seems the VAT is rumbling again at the expense of one President Obama but yet again I would contend this type tax just like the 70's has a bi-partisan appeal. On the republican side is one Paul Ryan and what he calls his "Business Consuption Tax" which is a VAT in a mask. One provided this time by republicans.
When it comes to gov't and the 2 political parties, very little difference is there once you start digging just a little bit and this goes for new and inventive ideas too. Most everything is just a rehash from something old but re-packaged just to fool the "I'm not looking so don't bother me" masses!
moreluck
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Re: Obamanation here today
http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnC...al_security_policy_hope_their_bombs_dont_work
http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnC...al_security_policy_hope_their_bombs_dont_work
moreluck
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Re: Obamanation here today
Subj: 1948 Cartoon
Keep in mind as you watch this that it was done in '1948'. Keep telling yourself that as you view it.
Click on1948 Cartoonbelow - this cartoon is timeless and is just as true today as it was in 1948! It is not hard to cast the character of the snake oil salesman as one of today's political leaders.
Look at this: 1948 Cartoon
http://nationaljuggernaut.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-cartoon-seemed-far-fetched-in-1948.html
Subj: 1948 Cartoon
Keep in mind as you watch this that it was done in '1948'. Keep telling yourself that as you view it.
Click on1948 Cartoonbelow - this cartoon is timeless and is just as true today as it was in 1948! It is not hard to cast the character of the snake oil salesman as one of today's political leaders.
Look at this: 1948 Cartoon
http://nationaljuggernaut.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-cartoon-seemed-far-fetched-in-1948.html
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Re: Obamanation here today
Rod made his appearance at 37 seconds into the video.
It looks like they chased Klein and his bottle of "isms" (chief of which was was his alcoholism) back across the border.
Rod made his appearance at 37 seconds into the video.
It looks like they chased Klein and his bottle of "isms" (chief of which was was his alcoholism) back across the border.
Re: Obamanation here today
dO YOU MEAN FAILED IN PASSING HEALTHCARE REFORM OR TURNING THE ECONOMY AROUND OR MAYBE YOU MEANT HIS FAILURES IN AFGANISTAN. oH WAIT, HE IS DOING PRETTY GOOD IN ALL OF THOSE AND HE IS ABOUT TO PUT THE HURT ON THE MORONS THAT CAUSED THE ECONOMY TO SELF DESTRUCT.
"Obama declares 'the system failed' in BP oil spill, calls for new regulations."
Who else would know better about "fail" than the prez.?
dO YOU MEAN FAILED IN PASSING HEALTHCARE REFORM OR TURNING THE ECONOMY AROUND OR MAYBE YOU MEANT HIS FAILURES IN AFGANISTAN. oH WAIT, HE IS DOING PRETTY GOOD IN ALL OF THOSE AND HE IS ABOUT TO PUT THE HURT ON THE MORONS THAT CAUSED THE ECONOMY TO SELF DESTRUCT.
Lue C Fur
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