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[Thebrownblob]

I will continue to pray for your unbelief.

I would submit this interesting article on the subject for you to glean whatever you wish from it.

“Christ Did Not Send Me To Baptize”: How to Respond to the Church of Christ’s Doctrine of Baptismal Necessity

The Jerry Rushford Collection, Pepperdine University Libraries As a pastor, I’m asked a few times each year how to respond to family members and friends who have joined the Church of Christ. …

thecripplegate.com

 

[Integrity]

I would submit this interesting article on the subject for you to glean whatever you wish from it.

“Christ Did Not Send Me To Baptize”: How to Respond to the Church of Christ’s Doctrine of Baptismal Necessity

The Jerry Rushford Collection, Pepperdine University Libraries As a pastor, I’m asked a few times each year how to respond to family members and friends who have joined the Church of Christ. …

thecripplegate.com

Thanks blob.

One of my brothers nickname growing up was Blops.

 

[BrownFlush]

I would submit this interesting article on the subject for you to glean whatever you wish from it.

“Christ Did Not Send Me To Baptize”: How to Respond to the Church of Christ’s Doctrine of Baptismal Necessity

The Jerry Rushford Collection, Pepperdine University Libraries As a pastor, I’m asked a few times each year how to respond to family members and friends who have joined the Church of Christ. …

thecripplegate.com

Interesting.

I submit this and glean from it whatever you wish. Remember, like all books, context is vital to understand what is actually being said and taught.

1 Corinthians 1:17: “For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel . . .” Faith is all you need preachers (and
others) cite this verse in order to prove that baptisms not a requirement for salvation. The purpose of baptism is not the object being considered in the “immediate context of this passage. "Contextually"speaking, there were “contentions” among some at Corinth, some saying “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Paul knew that the validity
of baptism is not determined by who does the baptizing, and he did not want to be a party to their partyism. Paul’s principle mission was “to preach the gospel” — it was not to baptize.
He had baptized “Crispus and Gaius”and “the household of Stephanas,” but he was thankful that he had personally baptized only a few at Corinth, “lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name.”
But, the fact remains that all who obeyed the gospel at Corinth had heard, believed, and were baptized (Acts 18:8)
Even in the context of 1 Corinthians 1:17 Paul revealed that in order for one to be “of Christ” (a Christian) two things had to occur: (1) Christ had to be crucified for that person, and (2) that person had to be baptized in “the name” of Christ. The seven verses before 1 Corinthians 1:17 gives the context for that verse, and they also necessarily infer that one must be baptized.

Tons of scripture in the article. I could comment on like above. If interested, I'd be happy to, but just not feeling the intrerest

 

[Integrity]

Interesting.

I submit this and glean from it whatever you wish. Remember, like all books, context is vital to understand what is actually being said and taught.

1 Corinthians 1:17: “For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel . . .” Faith is all you need preachers (and
others) cite this verse in order to prove that baptisms not a requirement for salvation. The purpose of baptism is not the object being considered in the “immediate context of this passage. "Contextually"speaking, there were “contentions” among some at Corinth, some saying “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Paul knew that the validity
of baptism is not determined by who does the baptizing, and he did not want to be a party to their partyism. Paul’s principle mission was “to preach the gospel” — it was not to baptize.
He had baptized “Crispus and Gaius”and “the household of Stephanas,” but he was thankful that he had personally baptized only a few at Corinth, “lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name.”
But, the fact remains that all who obeyed the gospel at Corinth had heard, believed, and were baptized (Acts 18:8)
Even in the context of 1 Corinthians 1:17 Paul revealed that in order for one to be “of Christ” (a Christian) two things had to occur: (1) Christ had to be crucified for that person, and (2) that person had to be baptized in “the name” of Christ. The seven verses before 1 Corinthians 1:17 gives the context for that verse, and they also necessarily infer that one must be baptized.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Interesting.

I submit this and glean from it whatever you wish. Remember, like all books, context is vital to understand what is actually being said and taught.

1 Corinthians 1:17: “For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel . . .” Faith is all you need preachers (and
others) cite this verse in order to prove that baptisms not a requirement for salvation. The purpose of baptism is not the object being considered in the “immediate context of this passage. "Contextually"speaking, there were “contentions” among some at Corinth, some saying “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Paul knew that the validity
of baptism is not determined by who does the baptizing, and he did not want to be a party to their partyism. Paul’s principle mission was “to preach the gospel” — it was not to baptize.
He had baptized “Crispus and Gaius”and “the household of Stephanas,” but he was thankful that he had personally baptized only a few at Corinth, “lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name.”
But, the fact remains that all who obeyed the gospel at Corinth had heard, believed, and were baptized (Acts 18:8)
Even in the context of 1 Corinthians 1:17 Paul revealed that in order for one to be “of Christ” (a Christian) two things had to occur: (1) Christ had to be crucified for that person, and (2) that person had to be baptized in “the name” of Christ. The seven verses before 1 Corinthians 1:17 gives the context for that verse, and they also necessarily infer that one must be baptized.

Tons of scripture in the article. I could comment on like above. If interested, I'd be happy to, but just not feeling the intrerest

So for context, you believe you understand the context better than anyone else and it’s your opinion that the context says baptism is absolutely necessary? Ok good thing I’m baptized I guess.

 

[BrownFlush]

So for context, you believe you understand the context better than anyone else

Looks like you're getting ready to go personal.

and it’s your opinion that the context says baptism is absolutely necessary?

As stated in what I wrote, the context isn't talking about the necessity of baptism.

Ok good thing I’m baptized I guess.

Best I could tell, you believe you're saved before baptism. I thought my comments and scriptures I quoted have been pretty clear, I believe the Bible teaches one is saved after baptism.

 

[Integrity]

Looks like you're getting ready to go personal.

As stated in what I wrote, the context isn't talking about the necessity of baptism.

Best I could tell, you believe you're saved before baptism. I thought my comments and scriptures I quoted have been pretty clear, I believe the Bible teaches one is saved after baptism.

Yes, it is clear that you do not believe that what Christ did was enough and you need to add some action on your part to enable God to save you.

Regardless of your belief or my belief, I certainly am glad that I was baptized, two times actually water baptized, and one baptized in the Holy Spirit.

I will continue to pray for you, my friend!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Looks like you're getting ready to go personal.

As stated in what I wrote, the context isn't talking about the necessity of baptism.

Best I could tell, you believe you're saved before baptism. I thought my comments and scriptures I quoted have been pretty clear, I believe the Bible teaches one is saved after baptism.

And some people don’t believe the Bible teaches that. And they have scriptures as well that say mandatory baptism is taken out of context and they will say it’s out of context. That’s what I’m saying nothing personal there.

 

[BrownFlush]

And some people don’t believe the Bible teaches that. And they have scriptures as well that say mandatory baptism is taken out of context and they will say it’s out of context. That’s what I’m saying nothing personal there.

Yes, Cletus. People have different opinions about the Bible and the interpretation thereof. I thought you had that already figured out.
Somebody told me this and I liked it about interpretation…
Two different interpretations for a verse cannot be right. Both can be wrong, but both cannot be right.Only one interpretation is right and one is wrong.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes, Cletus. People have different opinions about the Bible and the interpretation thereof. I thought you had that already figured out.
Somebody told me this and I liked it about interpretation…
Two different interpretations for a verse cannot be right. Both can be wrong, but both cannot be Ty. Only one interpretation is right and one is wrong.

Dang, you went personal. Well, since you got the right interpretations of literally every verse in the Bible I hope you emailed that pastor and tell him what dope he is leading everyone to hell. That would be the good Christian thing to do.

 

[Integrity]

Yes, Cletus. People have different opinions about the Bible and the interpretation thereof. I thought you had that already figured out.
Somebody told me this and I liked it about interpretation…
Two different interpretations for a verse cannot be right. Both can be wrong, but both cannot be right.Only one interpretation is right and one is wrong.

Yes and no, on that one.

 

[BrownFlush]

since you got the right interpretations of literally every verse in the Bible

Stupid comment.
Sounds like you’re not taking a different interpretation well.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Stupid comment.
Sounds like you’re not taking a different interpretation well.

Stupid to make assumptions

 

[BrownFlush]

Stupid to make assumptions

Yeah.. you assumed I had everything right before you even asked.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yeah.. you assumed I had everything right before you even asked.

My bad, which part do you have wrong?

 

[BrownFlush]

My bad, which part do you have wrong?

I’ve had plenty wrong. But, like Paul, I lived in “all good conscience “ while I was.
I was “ fully convinced”that what I believed was right.
I’ve never believed God has told us to believe what you want, you’re all going to heaven, you’re just on different roads.
If I’m shown in the Bible where I need to change and believe something else, like I’ve done plenty, I’ll repent and change positions.
One has a responsibility to be “ fully convinced “ in his own mind. Especially with what God says you need to do to go to heaven.

 

[BrownFlush]

My bad, which part do you have wrong?

sprinkling or dunking it does’t matter.

Not asking what the Bible teaches the purpose of baptism is here.
But, do you agree with Integrity the Bible teaches sprinkling for baptism doesn't matter to God?

 

[Integrity]

Not asking what the Bible teaches the purpose of baptism is here.
But, do you agree with Integrity the Bible teaches sprinkling for baptism doesn't matter to God?

Sprinkling, Pouring, or Immersion? Mode of Baptism at Harvest - Harvest Community Church (PCA)

Mode of Baptism at Harvest Community Church By Pastor Jacob Gerber Adopted by the Session of Harvest Community Church on December 16, 2020 Among Bible-believing Protestant Christians, debates about baptism often focus on the proper recipients of baptism. Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, and...

harvestpca.org

 

[Thebrownblob]

Not asking what the Bible teaches the purpose of baptism is here.
But, do you agree with Integrity the Bible teaches sprinkling for baptism doesn't matter to God?

No, not what I was taught. Sounds more Catholic.

 

[BrownFlush]

No, not what I was taught. Sounds more Catholic.

Let me ask it another way.
Integrity is wrong when he says that sprinkling for baptism makes no difference to God. Yes or no?