tourists24
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yes we do, which means you are playing russian roulette with your afterlife. The bible does define that salvation the way I describe. It does not say you will go to heaven by your own good works
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show me the verse
some people do different religions too. if htey pick wrong, then theyre screwed right?
tourists24
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just look up a few verses at what I just posted today. Matthew 19
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
another. Ephesians2:8-9 For grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; cit is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 10:9-10 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
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i will cross reference these quotes later. and look up what the other 2 ministers say about billy graham.
i think you are a good person. you seem to be more honest than @vantexan at least
You getting concerned that your favorite anarchists/socialists are frauds?
i would think any philosophy that says to be skeptical of power would be in line with jesus
We're told to obey authority, not rebel against it.
Did he? Show us where.
you dont understand. you think he was crucified simply for being popular. but thats not why people get crucified. youre missing out on the rebellion part too.
i would think just obeying authority would lead to satanic results
Show us where he rebelled? Jesus revolutionized the thinking of the time with nonviolence. Do the right thing. He didn't form mobs who pumped fists in the air as they raged against authority. That was never Jesus' message. You are trying to twist his message to your own ends.
If a speed limit says 35 mph, and you blow through it at 60 because you don't obey authority, not only would you be displeasing to God but the very possible carnage that can result from disobeying the law would indeed be satanic. Laws concerning safety are designed to protect us. Same with laws concerning investing. Same with labor laws. You don't rage against the machine declaring you don't have to obey government because it's corrupt and satanic. If people in authority are corrupt God will deal with them. But as Christians we are to obey laws unless they.attempt to force us to violate beliefs. For example many Christians don't believe in fighting wars. The government makes allowances for conscientious objectors. But they still expect us to fulfill our obligations as citizens such as being a medic or cook. Non-combatants. There's a lot more to it than you declaring everything you don't like satanic. And condemning people who don't see it like you do.
True, you're attempting to co-opt it.
i genuinely did not and please tell the truth my friend
laws arent pure.
people in authority are quite often corrupt and god does not deal with them while its happening.
were allowed to disagree. its healthy.
You absolutely are and you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you.
tourists24
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I try to be as honest as I know how and always try to give the glory to God. I think @vantexan is much smarter than me when it comes to biblical knowledge and I don't doubt his salvation. I hope that one day you too will seek the same salvation.
You're allowed to pick and choose which laws you'll follow?
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