It’s not truly a baptism unless the recipient is Michael Jordan 360 style dunked in a tank of at least 40 gallons of water.
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It’s not truly a baptism unless the recipient is Michael Jordan 360 style dunked in a tank of at least 40 gallons of water.
tourists24
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Guess you could call that full immersion
I'm not certain how your second verse encompasses infant baptism. Neither would the musings of David in the Old Testament justify baptizing babies. All examples in the New Testament of Christian conversion involved adults and we are never told to baptize children.
If you can give verses authorizing baptizing babies then great.
FromOffTheStreets
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I'm not arguing for infant baptism. Don't believe in that.
You don't believe in original sin
There are consequences of sin that affect others, but each person is responsible for the sin he commits. I don't believe children are sinful.
Pee Bottle
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So many people saying “I don’t believe” in here, which is the crux of the issue. WHAT DOES THE CHURCH SAY!
tourists24
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Which church? If you’re going to put your faith in a church, which one? Its why I always say you have to be careful who you put your trust in
"What does the More importantly, as @Integrity will tell you, what does the Bible say?
Pee Bottle
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I’m still trying to figure this out. Anglicans use the branch theory and we contend that we are a form of apostolic church just like the Catholics and Orthodox.
Pee Bottle
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the Bible cannot be read without being interpreted through a tradition. Either someone else’s or your own. The video I posted was Dr Jordan B Cooper, a Lutheran, rattling off many reasons why all Christians throughout time baptized infants.
Doublestandards
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This is what bugs me when people get so hostile about discrepancies of interpretation in the Bible and saying you’ll go to hell over it
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Jesus
Matthew 15:9
Integrity
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The Bible actually exists as and as a result of Church tradition.
Integrity
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While sitting in pondering with the God of the universe this morning, I felt the deep prompting to share this with my BC brethren:
www.biblegateway.com
While the true authorship of this letter is debated by various biblical scholars is a reality that the visible church must contend with, I don’t believe the flaws and potential errors in scholarly understanding and communicating religious tradition through written texts in the seen diminishes the Holy Spirit’s capacity to speak with us directly and individually in the unseen through these same religious texts.
Hope the Spirit of God speaks to you in someway through this recorded prayer!
Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 3:14-21 - New International Version
A Prayer for the Ephesians - For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through...
While the true authorship of this letter is debated by various biblical scholars is a reality that the visible church must contend with, I don’t believe the flaws and potential errors in scholarly understanding and communicating religious tradition through written texts in the seen diminishes the Holy Spirit’s capacity to speak with us directly and individually in the unseen through these same religious texts.
Hope the Spirit of God speaks to you in someway through this recorded prayer!
Pee Bottle
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Correct. God chose to have His word assembled and canonized thru church councils.
tourists24
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Just be careful when choosing your church home. No denomination is "the" correct one. Wherever you land just make sure that the most important things are emphasized: leading people to salvation, grow with your church in doing the things that glorify Christ. Reach up toward Him, reach in and let Him into your heart through faith, and then reach outward to help bring others to Christ so they can spread the word and lead others to find Christ also
Ordained to Write - Truthdig
Three decades ago Chris Hedges sought to become a minister and report the war in El Salvador A church committee refused to see his work as a journalist as a valid call to the ministry On Oct 5 his ordination -- marked by addresses from James Cone (above) and Cornel West -- finally took place...
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Integrity
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Why do you say the purpose of your church should be leading people to salvation?
Are you suggesting that you determine who needs salvation and who doesn’t?
I’ve heard my church leaders say similar type of doctrine and it seems a bit cringe to me. As if they know, or we will know the heart condition of any person on the planet. I believe deeply that only God knows the heart of the person every person and I do believe religious texts, supports that ideology.
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