Rittenhouse Trial

vantexan

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They had no intention of meeting out justice or killing anyone.

Their intent was to detain and pass along to authorities a very obviously guilty man.

Then that man tried to kill them.

Everything was legal and fine.
Wouldn't have happened if they kept their distance and called the police. There are reasons why we have laws against vigilantism
 

wilberforce15

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Wouldn't have happened if they kept their distance and called the police. There are reasons why we have laws against vigilantism
They DID keep their distance.

Watch the video. They were VERY distant. On purpose.

Arbery closed the distance. Arbery created the confrontation. Arbery tried to kill them.
 

vantexan

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That's what has to happen sometimes though.
Sure, I see a home invasion at my neighbors I grab my gun and try to stop it. I don't spot a guy running down the street, think he looks like a guy that I saw on a video who broke into a property down the street, decide to chase him down and pull a gun on him. I call the cops and tell them my suspicion, offer to keep the guy in sight until they arrive. There's an active neighborhood watch, then there's vigilantism.
 

wilberforce15

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They didn't shoot until HE wrestled them. They didn't shoot him from far. They didn't shoot him from close. They didn't shoot him on first contact.

There is nothing aggressive or vigilante about it.
 

vantexan

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They DID keep their distance.

Watch the video. They were VERY distant. On purpose.

Arbery closed the distance. Arbery created the confrontation. Arbery tried to kill them.
Saw the video. They pulled up and came at Arbery with a gun. There's no way of knowing exactly what he was thinking. He may have thought he was fighting for his life against thugs with bad intentions. We'll never know.
 

wilberforce15

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Saw the video. They pulled up and came at Arbery with a gun. There's no way of knowing exactly what he was thinking. He may have thought he was fighting for his life against thugs with bad intentions. We'll never know.
They were stopped. Arbery was running. They stayed still. Arbery closed the distance and approached them. Every single foot of distance between them was closed by Arbery.
 

wilberforce15

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Saw the video. They pulled up and came at Arbery with a gun. There's no way of knowing exactly what he was thinking. He may have thought he was fighting for his life against thugs with bad intentions. We'll never know.
We know exactly what he was thinking. He was running from his own crimes and knew they were trying to stop him. So he tried to kill them.
 

vantexan

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They shot him AFTER first contact, which was initiated by arbery, and when he almost had control of the weapon.

They were very irresponsible by not shooting him sooner. But they were very patient and non-aggressive with him.
So let's get this straight, he grasped at the gun, then the shooter backed up some distance then opened fire. Uh-huh. That'll go over well in court.
 

wilberforce15

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So let's get this straight, he grasped at the gun, then the shooter backed up some distance then opened fire. Uh-huh. That'll go over well in court.
Yes, because he was still engaged in the fight, and the threat was still lethal. He just tried to kill them and was still fighting. This is not hard.
 

wilberforce15

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I know you've got a gun and are itching to shoot someone. You probably wish it had been you who had shot Arbery.
No, actually, I only carry in church and other mass gatherings, because stopping a mass shooter is the only place that self-defense is reliably recognized.

I don't want to get lynched by liberals like these guys are. So, I'm never going to shoot an assailant, and especially never a black assailant.

People like you will hang me for nothing.
 

vantexan

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Yes, because he was still engaged in the fight, and the threat was still lethal. He just tried to kill them and was still fighting. This is not hard.
According to you the shooter had some distance between him and an unarmed man when he shot him. "I didn't like the way he was looking at me your honor."
 

wilberforce15

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According to you the shooter had some distance between him and an unarmed man when he shot him. "I didn't like the way he was looking at me your honor."
Yes, when the man is still engaged in teh fight after trying to kill you, establishing distance and getting a clean shot is not only defensible, it's the best course of action.
 

vantexan

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No, actually, I only carry in church and other mass gatherings, because stopping a mass shooter is the only place that self-defense is reliably recognized.

I don't want to get lynched by liberals like these guys are. So, I'm never going to shoot an assailant, and especially never a black assailant.

People like you will hang me for nothing.
That's because I know what's in your mind and it's my right to stop you no matter what! :)
 
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