So who won the debate?

[JackStraw]

The 9.5 thing still stings. When it first came about, EVERYBODY(at least in my neck of the woods) had to be off the clock before 9.5. Then, and I'm not sure how this happened mid-contract, we have to grieve onto a list AFTER we work over 9.5 for three days and it only lasts for a certain amount of months?? 7 I think. This of course brings a 3 day ride along and BS harrassment from mgt. It seemed that UPS said hey this ain't working for us we need to change it so it better benefits us.

 

[realbrown1]

Didn't cross in 1997.

Won't be here in 2018 but if I were I wouldn't cross.

I wouldn't waste my time standing around drinking beer.

You had beer on your strike line?

Bastard.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You had beer on your strike line?

Bastard.

They had beer on their strike line.

I drank water on a construction site.

 

[realbrown1]

Is there anyone who thinks Z won that debate or is there anyone who thinks he was prepared to debate

I'm voting for FZ.

As for the debate, FZ did good enough?

He especially did better than Jr. who was a no-show again.

 

[realbrown1]

They had beer on their strike line.

I drank water on a construction site.

You drank at work?

Bastard.

 

[quamba 638]

He has the guts to have no OT after 5 hours for part timers. He has "in limbo" part time / fullish time jobs. He's a giant concession himself.

Elaborate on the limbo pt/ft part

 

[wide load]

Elaborate on the limbo pt/ft part

He agreed to have 6 hour part time position with no overtime (huge concession) instead of negotiating an 8 hour plan.

 

[Dracula]

hall should be our next president. Vote hall/O 2021

Not if he can't grow a set and stop UPS from subcontracting. If he can't make a stand on that, he has no business being a leader in this union.

 

[wide load]

Not if he can't grow a set and stop UPS from subcontracting. If he can't make a stand on that, he has no business being a leader in this union.

Is your local stopping subcontracting?

 

[voodoo child]

Just want the union to fight for its members.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Just want the union to fight for its members.

Who says they aren't already doing that?

 

[voodoo child]

Agree Dracula no subcontracting

 

[voodoo child]

NY man 688 isn't we need tougher union our way.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Agree Dracula no subcontracting

Coyote?

NY man 688 isn't we need tougher union our way.

Wut?

 

[realbrown1]

Who says they aren't already doing that?

By imposing contracts and by being in bed with the companies?

It's more like they are fighting for the companies.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

Count your raises. Tell me what they were. Add health and pension too. Get back to me.

My pension just got cut 20%. Yours will be next. A company making 4 billion a quarter. They should give raises. But, the union conceded with them being split. I have NO gripe at all about health. I thank them. That is it. Otherwise the union got their Azzez handed to them in every other aspect of the contract

 

[wide load]

My pension just got cut 20%. Yours will be next. A company making 4 billion a quarter. They should give raises. But, the union conceded with them being split. I have NO gripe at all about health. I thank them. That is it. Otherwise the union got their Azzez handed to them in every other aspect of the contract

Dumb. My pension won't be next. We negotiated an incredible amount but your concern is the fact that more people are retiring than being put in the plan. If I gave you 8oz of water in a 16oz glass, would it be half full or half empty?

 

[wide load]

By imposing contracts and by being in bed with the companies?

It's more like they are fighting for the companies.

What would suckerman get? All 6 hour positions? The guys is a maroon.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

Dumb. My pension won't be next. We negotiated an incredible amount but your concern is the fact that more people are retiring than being put in the plan. If I gave you 8oz of water in a 16oz glass, would it be half full or half empty?

Pssssh rookie

 

[realbrown1]

What would suckerman get? All 6 hour positions? The guys is a maroon.

The guys is a maroon?

Is the guys?