Strike Vote

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In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Not sure how many days there are until August 1, but if a Strike vote is done so frequently, and the response is always Yes…doesn’t it actually lose any usage that may have been intended?
It’s predictable and the outcome is predictable. What people REALLY choose do do when they’re faced with the REAL decision May be different.
So, a Strike Vote is part of the process. Maybe the IBT forgot that and are now rushing to “ check that box”?

It is part of the process.. the Union cannot call a national strike without the membership’s approval.

No one is rushing..timetable still in place.

Deal can be done in an hour if needed.

I honestly do not know why they waited so long
 

Sacrificial Lamb

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Coldworld

Well-Known Member
We got the entitlement generation to deal with and unlike back then there were a ton of retirees and folks part of the generation that saw firsthand the benefits of unions. Most have sadly passed. It’s going to be a fight, but we’ll get through it as long as we have faith.
We were also a private company back in the day…now we have shareholders who aren’t exclusively management….that is a big difference compared to 1997.
 

Trucker Clock

Well-Known Member
Sure sounds like that's the message to me. From multiple different sources through out the year.

I wouldn't believe a word Zuckerman says. And O'Brien, well he said he wouldn't negotiate past August 1st.

O'Brien wants an agreement before August 1st. Let's say he gets a handshake agreement from UPS before August 1st. How long will it take to print the contract, mail it and have us vote on it?

He never said what he would, or would not do, if he reached an agreement with the Company that he is satisfied with before August 1st, and then we turned it down at a later date.

He only said that he will not negotiate past August 1st. Meaning that if UPS does not agree to a contract, he will call a strike. If they agree to a contract and we turn it down, I guarantee you that it will not be an immediate strike.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't believe a word Zuckerman says. And O'Brien, well he said he wouldn't negotiate past August 1st.

O'Brien wants an agreement before August 1st. Let's say he gets a handshake agreement from UPS before August 1st. How long will it take to print the contract, mail it and have us vote on it?

He never said what he would, or would not do, if he reached an agreement with the Company that he is satisfied with before August 1st, and then we turned it down at a later date.

He only said that he will not negotiate past August 1st. Meaning that if UPS does not agree to a contract, he will call a strike. If they agree to a contract and we turn it down, I guarantee you that it will not be an immediate strike.
I agree about FZ!
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Actually, I don't think O'Brien would know what to do if he agreed to a contract and we voted it down.
Is anybody aware of what our line in the sand is in regards to making an agreement? Is it PVDs, is it 22.4, is it part time pay? Is it air conditioning in the trucks? Is it forced six days? Is it reduction of hours? Is it 9.5 language. Is it no subcontracting in feeders? Is it better pensions? Is it less progression time? Is it more full-time jobs? Is it full-time raises? Is it production standards and harassment?

Feels like there’s no concise focus. What would be considered defeat or disappointment? We just want everything in one contract? Pretty ambitious. I hope we get it all.
 

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In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
I wouldn't believe a word Zuckerman says. And O'Brien, well he said he wouldn't negotiate past August 1st.

Zuckerman is step in toe with O'Brien..every word out of his mouth has already been approved by Sean.
O'Brien wants an agreement before August 1st. Let's say he gets a handshake agreement from UPS before August 1st. How long will it take to print the contract, mail it and have us vote on it?

Why would the Company wait...once this strike vote is in the shareholders will be looking at the market share, when that starts to go south heads will roll...

He never said what he would, or would not do, if he reached an agreement with the Company that he is satisfied with before August 1st, and then we turned it down at a later date.

He knows that the membership will vote it in, similar to the 1997 contract. He will not be compliant to the demands of UPS, they are of no consequence, unlike the previous administrations.
He only said that he will not negotiate past August 1st. Meaning that if UPS does not agree to a contract, he will call a strike. If they agree to a contract and we turn it down, I guarantee you that it will not be an immediate strike.

Probably not..and a cow can jump over the moon also...better odds on that...
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Shouldn’t be too tough , each business agent stands outside while shifts come and go , get guys to sign , and done . Give these lazy mother friend ers a number to call or site to do it on and they’ll toss it and forget prob

We’ve got one BA for a state that’s 450 miles wide and 250 deep
Not sure how this is gonna work
 
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