Union Politics - Tim S for General President 2016

[hyena]

We know he would hire people to embezzle and conspire.

Fail

 

[wide load]

Fail

Fail? How is that? Just because Carey cleared his name doesn't mean the illegal campaign contributions didn't happen. Justice department needed a slam dunk so Carey rolled over on his own buddies.

 

[realbrown1]

We know he would hire people to embezzle and conspire.

No, we do know the the OLD GUARD will do anything, tell any lie, risk jail time to remove a non-OLD GUARD from the GP position.

That, is a fact.

 

[wide load]

No, we do know the the OLD GUARD will do anything, tell any lie, risk jail time to remove a non-OLD GUARD from the GP position.

That, is a fact.

Are you saying my comment is not true?

 

[realbrown1]

Are you saying my comment is not true?

When a Federal Appeals Court rules that the testimony of the witness that convicted Carey was NOT CREDIBLE, your story falls apart.

 

[10 point]

Are you saying my comment is not true?

Which one?
Hypothetical ones or the trumped up hypotheses based on your imagination that you could never prove?

 

[10 point]

He never had the opportunity too stick one down your throat because he only had 1 term! But I'm sure he would have done the same if he was dealing with a local president that was bent on making him look bad for political gain.

1 term. Thx for the info.

 

[Bubblehead]

1 term. Thx for the info.

Ron Carey served 1 full term, 17 years ago and the man died almost 7 years ago.
Somehow he continues to be drug into these conversations.
Not sure how it is relevant to the 2016 General Election?

I hate it when people try to bring themselves up, by bringing someone else down.
Guess that's all you can do when you can't rest on your own laurels?

 

[10 point]

Ron Carey served 1 full term, 17 years ago and the man died almost 7 years ago.
Somehow he continues to be drug into these conversations.
Not sure how it is relevant to the 2016 General Election?

I hate it when people try to bring themselves up, by bringing someone else down.
Guess that's all you can do when you can't rest on your own laurels?

He won 2 elections.
If he could have run again he would've won again.
He was greatly respected.
Sold two union jets for about 11 million to cut costs and reduced his own salary by one-third.
He related to the common blue collar worker.

 

[5habits100]

I hate it when people try to bring themselves up, by bringing someone else down.
Guess that's all you can do when you can't rest on your own laurels?

Hey pot

 

[5habits100]

He won 2 elections.
If he could have run again he would've won again.
He was greatly respected.
Sold two union jets for about 11 million to cut costs and reduced his own salary by one-third.
He related to the common blue collar worker.

You forgot the IBT Headquarters was falling apart because the IBT didn't have any money and they had to borrow money to pay for things. Sorry to include facts. I'm sure you'll give me some.

 

[Bubblehead]

He won 2 elections.
If he could have run again he would've won again.
He was greatly respected.
Sold two union jets for about 11 million to cut costs and reduced his own salary by one-third.
He related to the common blue collar worker.

You forgot the IBT Headquarters was falling apart because the IBT didn't have any money and they had to borrow money to pay for things. Sorry to include facts. I'm sure you'll give me some.

So, are you saying by selling off 2 jets and reducing his own salary, he was somehow derelict in addressing the financial woes he inherited?

 

[5habits100]

So, by selling off 2 jets and reducing his own salary, he was somehow derelict in addressing the financial woes he inherited?

Typical its someone else's fault.
10 point said he had 2 terms.
The IBT had to borrow money from the AFL.

 

[Bubblehead]

Typical its someone else's fault.
10 point said he had 2 terms.
The IBT had to borrow money from the AFL.

Again, Ron Carey is deceased and 17 years removed from the IBT Presidency in the 1990's.

He served one full term and was removed less than a year after being re-elected.
Ron Carey obviously made several, already noted, cost cutting measures to a cash strapped organization.
If additional money was borrowed subsequently???...OK

Still not sure how any of this is relevant to the 2016 General Election?

 

[wide load]

When a Federal Appeals Court rules that the testimony of the witness that convicted Carey was NOT CREDIBLE, your story falls apart.

Jere Nash pleaded guilty.
Martin Davis pleaded guilty.
Michael Ansara pleaded guilty.
So I guess the embezzlement never happened.

 

[realbrown1]

Jere Nash pleaded guilty.
Martin Davis pleaded guilty.
Michael Ansara pleaded guilty.
So I guess the embezzlement never happened.

Did Carey embezzle or order those to embezzle?

NO.

Case closed.

 

[Bubblehead]

Jere Nash pleaded guilty.
Martin Davis pleaded guilty.
Michael Ansara pleaded guilty.
So I guess the embezzlement never happened.

Sounds like the truly guilty parties must have stuck out?

3 more guys who were trying to bring themselves up, by bringing someone else down.

 

[10 point]

Typical its someone else's fault.
10 point said he had 2 terms.
The IBT had to borrow money from the AFL.

I SAID he won two elections. I did NOT say he had two full terms.

Hooked on phonics may help you?

 

[10 point]

Don't forget Trumpka invoked the 5th.

Carey was cleared in a Federal Court but if you have more info you could call up the Republican Party and let them know.

 

[5habits100]

I SAID he won two elections. I did NOT say he had two full terms.

Hooked on phonics may help you?

Have another drink tough guy. It's just a forum don't cry about it.