Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.
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Ancient Alien
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You mean he’s not paid by the union?
People have different opinions no need to be vulgar
llamainmypocket
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Substantial wage increases in coming...
Up to minimum wage.
Yes!
Up to minimum wage.
Yes!
Been In Brown Too Long
Ex-Package Donkey
Hadn't seen the Matt video prior to this.
The glaring concession that I get from him is the issue of 22.4s taking work that would ordinarily be done on Monday by RPCDs. Matt brings up at 7:50 "when work is available" and says "I don't know what that is supposed to mean." EXACTLY!! That is the problem. It is not clearly defined and will be exploited. Fix it, don't just say "whatever" and move on. Then it gets worse IMO. He says the NorCal supplement addresses this by allowing a RPCD to displace 2 part timers at drivers rate should they not have work on Monday. Or....they can bump into Saturday. Well, now aren't we back to where we started, RPCDs driving on weekends? That was what 22.4 was supposed to eliminate, right? So now we have RPCDs working weekends, and we allowed a 2nd class driver position in at $6 less. That is nothing but a concession! The other option, bump 2 part timers...now you've turned my full time driving job into a quasi-part-time/full-time position in order to give my work to what was previously a part timer? What the hell is that?
His continuous use of the phrase "I don't have a problem with that" just plain bothers me. He is saying plain and simple, this particular issue doesn't really affect me, so not my problem.
Oh, and Matt's parting note, UPS always has, and always will harrass you. We're not even going to bother trying to fix that. SMH!
The glaring concession that I get from him is the issue of 22.4s taking work that would ordinarily be done on Monday by RPCDs. Matt brings up at 7:50 "when work is available" and says "I don't know what that is supposed to mean." EXACTLY!! That is the problem. It is not clearly defined and will be exploited. Fix it, don't just say "whatever" and move on. Then it gets worse IMO. He says the NorCal supplement addresses this by allowing a RPCD to displace 2 part timers at drivers rate should they not have work on Monday. Or....they can bump into Saturday. Well, now aren't we back to where we started, RPCDs driving on weekends? That was what 22.4 was supposed to eliminate, right? So now we have RPCDs working weekends, and we allowed a 2nd class driver position in at $6 less. That is nothing but a concession! The other option, bump 2 part timers...now you've turned my full time driving job into a quasi-part-time/full-time position in order to give my work to what was previously a part timer? What the hell is that?
His continuous use of the phrase "I don't have a problem with that" just plain bothers me. He is saying plain and simple, this particular issue doesn't really affect me, so not my problem.
Oh, and Matt's parting note, UPS always has, and always will harrass you. We're not even going to bother trying to fix that. SMH!
First off, that lady doesn’t know her ass from her elbow. TCD’s get better pay, pension, health and 9.5 protections. 224’s don’t. Look, some locals are trying to get “noticed” by the IBT (example @Tony Q). They are so worried about UPS going under that UPS gave every PT sup a $3 and hour raise. I cannot believe the state of some of these unions. So elected officials would crumble pulling a route.
Time for change
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I can assure you that almost no part timer with 3 or more years is happy with this contract no matter who is explaining this horrible contract.
Me and Tony have a history. Sorry if my truck driver vocabulary is too abrasive for you.
DirtySouth
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Nowhere did Tyler claim he wanted a 401k over a pension. Very few (if any) drivers want to work 70 hour weeks even if they can "pay for Christmas in one day."
This video is a
ing joke. I'll trust the rank and file over Rick H's paid hack any day of the ing week.
Ancient Alien
UPS Vacation
I like this Tyler kid. This video does expose his local as bowing down on grievance pay for 30-40% instead of the legally owed 100%. Now this is what Tyler said he, the membership & his area local agree too.
If this indeed true. I'd like to see Tyler more involved in his local as an employee.
Put Tyler on the ticket. He might need some fine tuning on understanding a contract but he's intelligent and has a street fighter mentality.
If this indeed true. I'd like to see Tyler more involved in his local as an employee.
Put Tyler on the ticket. He might need some fine tuning on understanding a contract but he's intelligent and has a street fighter mentality.
DirtySouth
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By the way, did Denis T write the ending of that video? More ing bull scare tactics from IBT and the package division.
Disgusted that Rick would go this far to protect his "22.4 baby."
ing bull scare tactics from IBT and the package division. Disgusted that Rick would go this far to protect his "22.4 baby."
She is spot on with Tyler's video
It hurts your push for your opinion to persuade
So nothing she said made sense to you the inflation calculation ectNowhere did Tyler claim he wanted a 401k over a pension. Very few (if any) drivers want to work 70 hour weeks even if they can "pay for Christmas in one day."
This video is a
DirtySouth
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It made perfect sense.
It's also readily apparent she was reading off a teleprompter and was categorically full of
. But hey, at least she waited until the end to talk down to the members instead of in her intro like our Director so often does.
I like his passion also but he was wrong on a lot of presentation
LagunaBrown
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The Tyler kid has heart and should stick to his local union and build out from there. He took on a general explanation for the nation and that is something different between region and even locals. He has no clue how everything works in its entirety. He bailed out on pension in the second video and has no idea how a cover driver works. The more he posts the more obvious it will be.
LagunaBrown
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That is the way most of these guys react when they get schooled.
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