LagunaBrown
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A two tier driver that already exist in your locals.
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llamainmypocket
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Anyone delivering packages that's not a RPCD is removing work from RPCDs. That work leads to new RPCD jobs.
If there was no TCD position I'd posit that they'd have won a RPCD job. Isnt that better than a TCD job? Does the same thought apply to 22.4 jobs? Isn't this creating a 2nd or 3rd tier?
If there was no TCD position I'd posit that they'd have won a RPCD job. Isnt that better than a TCD job? Does the same thought apply to 22.4 jobs? Isn't this creating a 2nd or 3rd tier?
LagunaBrown
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No you signed up for the job. Take a little ownership. If I am correct that language was there before you even started at UPS. I personally did not sign up for cover driver for the reasons you stated and waited for the RPCD job. Some people needed the money and got more pay and progression credits than me while I waited. It is a choice and nothing pushed on to anyone.
llamainmypocket
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So now there's a 3rd tier. How's that better than a 1 tier system?
LagunaBrown
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I have already explained it a million times.
llamainmypocket
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22.4 drivers, as full timers, will have pick over part timers for new full time openings. That will apply to RPCDs. If you want to be an RPCD you will need to be a 22.4 first. That's a choice people will be pushed into.
llamainmypocket
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Don't give up on me now. I'm gonna get a no vote out of you.
LagunaBrown
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There actually are benefits to them if you use it correctly. Like jumping pay progression read this post
not true.
llamainmypocket
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True. Actually. I've read the contract.
542thruNthru
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Yes I took the job and will gladly take ownership of it. Still doesn't change the fact that it's a regular FT package job disguise as a part-time driving job. This is what you aren't understanding man we understand it's already in the contract doesn't mean we want it to increase across the country. UPS needs more drivers. Fine hire more FT RPCDs. Like you said, cover is here to stay but doesn't mean we need to make a bad idea worse by allowing more to be hired.
Some areas don't even have the choice they either have to go 22.4 or never become a RPCD. Congratulations you didn't have to do that not everybody is as lucky as you.
Why don't you just call it what it really is. The teamsters throwing UPS a bone because they know they are losing money on weekends.
llamainmypocket
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List some of these benefits to being a tcd or 22.4. Would you consider changing classifications? If not, how does that reflect your position?
542thruNthru
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In lots of areas it is true sorry man you may know our contract but you don't know everyone's
LagunaBrown
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Reread my post I was having trouble uploading an image
LagunaBrown
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Where?
llamainmypocket
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Okay. There's a little loop hole in TCD position where you can get played a little more until you hit top rate. That's it? I wouldn't go for it. You didn't go for it. Now because of a permanent TCD position, people are left waiting even longer to get a real job. The RPCD job. Doesn't really sound like a good deal considering the added wait time.
Any advantage to being a 22.4? Reason indicates that it will simply increase the wait time to be a RPCD.
542thruNthru
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It's been discussed on here and I'll gladly look it up for you once I'm off work. I thought it was BS also to be honest till I saw the language.
Till then trust me it's the truth.
Um, what cover drivers do you have that get $10 less an hour?
LagunaBrown
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Ya know I gotta look up your stuff you look up mine and get back to me.
542thruNthru
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Best I can find real quick but read this page.
https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/vote-yes.378953/page-5#post-3676868
LagunaBrown
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I trust you I would like to see it though. Thanks, I’m about to watch some football too.
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