Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[Neanderthal]

Next time you are delivering a package or meet a wharehouse employee from Fedex, Fedex ground, Amazon, on trac, any other employee....

Ask them what their total package is

Part timers make twice the total package than their next highest competitors

Three times that for the full-time package drivers

Put down your pitch forks and realize how much money is in this thing.


Less than 27% of the entire country even voted on the strike authorization vote. Chances are the turn out on the actual vote will be similar.

 

[Froome]

A no vote may actual make the union listen to the members. Why would we settle for 22.4 when that kind of job is what we are opposed to. To me it seems like we are starting over in the 1940's.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

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[zubenelgenubi]

The union is not your enemy. They are you’re elected leadership and have actual experience bargaining contracts.

If you don’t like what they are doing attend your local union meetings and vote them out.

The reality is you have been lied to by the garbage posted by TDU, a political gambit of team OZ and a poster child Tyler Binder who has a local union that doesn’t even enforce the contract they have now.

What’s scarier than the “sell out” bull your claiming is the fact that everyone is so disconnected from reality

Full-timers will have a full package just shy of $70 an hour at the end of this agreement. Good luck finding sympathy from the general public when you go on strike.

Should we trust our elected officials? Or should we vote them out? Which is it? If we should vote them out, we should probably vote the contract down too.

How much would our compensation package be if the union didn't need ups to bail out some pension plans? Don't conflate UPS' employment costs with the money/benefit we will actually see.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

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[Froome]

There won't be a strike, just the threat. Do you think anyone wants to run a route with orion? UPS would really be in trouble.

 

[Neanderthal]

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Should we trust our elected officials? Or should we vote them out? Which is it?

Just stirring the pot.

Can’t speak for everybody but trust is the most important thing to have in your leadership.

They aren’t much of a leader if they have not earned that from you

 

[Froome]

I had trust...then I read most of the contract and realized the wording mostly said, "shall". The word is subjective and not definitive. We all know UPS will never twist the meaning or intent.

 

[Neanderthal]

I had trust...then I read most of the contract and realized the wording mostly said, "shall". The word is subjective and not definitive. We all know UPS will never twist the meaning or intent.

The union has job security because of it. It’s up to us to file grievances because that’s what teamsters do.

 

[Froome]

Well in my center, we are really good at that.

 

[Benben]

Next time you are delivering a package or meet a wharehouse employee from Fedex, Fedex ground, Amazon, on trac, any other employee....
Ask them what their total package is
Part timers make twice the total package than their next highest competitors
Three times that for the full-time package drivers
Put down your pitch forks and realize how much money is in this thing.
Less than 27% of the entire country even voted on the strike authorization vote. Chances are the turn out on the actual vote will be similar.

Provide proof TonyQ! You keep spewing out made up numbers across your various accounts thinking someone might believe the crap you are peddling!
Please go get a life!

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Just stirring the pot.

Can’t speak for everybody but trust is the most important thing to have in your leadership.

They aren’t much of a leader if they have not earned that from you

You're not the only one. I just decided to respond similarly to all of them.

 

[Neanderthal]

Provide proof TonyQ! You keep spewing out made up numbers across your various accounts thinking someone might believe the crap you are peddling!
Please go get a life!

Not sure what you mean. My only account. Lurked for a while but grew tired of the nonsense

 

[542thruNthru]

Just stirring the pot.

Can’t speak for everybody but trust is the most important thing to have in your leadership.

They aren’t much of a leader if they have not earned that from you

So you're a big Trump supporter then? He was elected and is your leader. Make America Great Again right brother?

 

[Neanderthal]

So you're a big Trump supporter then? He was elected and is your leader. Make America Great Again right brother?

That is far different. In most locals, representation comes from within the industry with a finite focus on the number of crafts.

There is far more specialization in the tending to bargained agreements and bargaining process.

That comparison you made is unfair and very undeserving

 

[542thruNthru]

That is far different. In most locals, representation comes from within the industry with a finite focus on the number of crafts.

There is far more specialization in the tending to bargained agreements and bargaining process.

That comparison you made is unfair and very undeserving

I know I'm just messing with you.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Just stirring the pot.

Can’t speak for everybody but trust is the most important thing to have in your leadership.

They aren’t much of a leader if they have not earned that from you

There are some people like me who doesn't trust anybody.
However, I realized good leaders over my lifetime.
I understand what you mean though and it probably works for most people ... obviously, you.
Carry on.

 

[Neanderthal]

Provide proof TonyQ! You keep spewing out made up numbers across your various accounts thinking someone might believe the crap you are peddling!
Please go get a life!

I did wing those numbers.

I know some Fedex express guys that pull $17-28 an hour, but only have matching 401k, and a pay their own health care coverage which can be expensive with family.
Also I believe they have a ten year progression based on merit raises.

Fedex ground is all over the board. I have talked to guys making $11 hr delivering after figuring out their totals up to $17 an hour.

On trac was close to that.



On the strike vote percentage call your union hall and ask. They will tell you it was abysmal

 

[542thruNthru]

There are some people like me who doesn't trust anybody.
However, I realized good leaders over my lifetime.
I understand what you mean though and it probably works for most people ... obviously, you.
Carry on.

What are you doing in the Union forums! Thought we had a deal when you threw a hissy fit when I talked bad about PT supes.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

What are you doing in the Union forums! Thought we had a deal when you threw a hissy fit when I talked bad about PT supes.
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Sorry, didn't realize it was the Union Forum.
I've got a stuffy nose and didn't smell the !