Voting Starts Next Week! How will you vote and why.

[zubenelgenubi]

The level of crazy on the forums is really ramping up concerning the vote. The narrative from the yessers has gone from misinformation and deflection to rabid incomprehensibility. Wonder how many, and which, of these new faces will still be here come October 6th.

 

[DELACROIX]

It is going to get more crazier after October 6th guaranteed.

 

[Moneythehardway]

Take all of this into consideration when voting.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Yes it's Tyler again, but listen to it out and I guarantee you can't argue against what he is saying here.

I can argue all day that PT workers should not be making $52k a year, that's not what the market dictates and that's not good business. I can argue that PT should not be starting at $31 per hour, as his logic suggests.

"There's money for shareholders and for management, but none for part-timers..." or however it went...
I can argue that UPS has to pay those people as well as pay it's union workers. Even a PTer that makes $20 an hour gets nearly a 21% increase over this contract.

There are a few things to be pissy about in this proposed NMA, money isn't one of them.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

It is going to get more crazier after October 6th guaranteed.

You're right. I was thinking about that later. That almost sounded like I was implying that the contract would pass. Good catch.

 

[Dulce Bombón]

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People think is like that, Vote No, it not a Strike, is contract under new negotiations! We will continue working! Peak Season is almost here!! UPS is afraid of a Strike right now. Vote No, Lets Go strong, Keep it up.!!! If is a Vote Yes, well we will make Triple pay Filing Grievances, We have nothing to loose. Of course, we don't have to get to the extremes, but we will do it if we have to.

 

[mikejonesjr]

Voted no on both today. Although I have a feeling it will pass anyway at least the master. Probably not til after peak since I assume a few locals will have to renegotiate. Oh well.

 

[DELACROIX]

I do not know about that..East will vote for it's supplements but down the "Master. Midwest and South should down both (no real improvements in either)...West will go 50/50..GWI might be an issue not keeping up with the cost of living in some of the major cities on the West Coast.

This contract is more of a referendum on the Hoffa administration and the previous contract the general feeling that I am getting is that our membership is angry on the way things are going and how they been talked down to.

Come Oct 6..We will find out more.

 

[Time for change]

It’s getting ratified, part timers far out number fulltimers, and the part timers look at this as a windfall, we’re doomed.

Nope, only windfall is for brand new hires and they will have least number of votes. This contract is toast and will not pass. Mark my words.

 

[Skooney]

Just a funny moment today, our BA at 959 is telling people he “talked to someone” and was told “if you vote no, Hoffa will just call for a strike because this is the best we can do.”

Lol. GTFOH.

 

[Slug Life]

My Steward is preaching the Amazon Black Plague is coming and if we vote no we’ll be outta business. GTFOH with that weaksauce

 

[sandwich]

My Steward is preaching the Amazon Black Plague is coming and if we vote no we’ll be outta business. GTFOH with that weaksauce

Riiiiight. Did you ask him if we are 1 strike away from going out of business, then why is ups investing millions into hub expansions and building super hubs.

 

[iruhnman630]

2 'no' votes, officially cast.

 

[JustDeliverIt]

I got my no votes, I mean ballot, in the mail today as well!!

 

[Indecisi0n]

Do we still have black Friday?

 

[JustDeliverIt]

Do we still have black Friday?

What you do on Friday's is up to you.

 

[AlliSeeisBrown]

Do we still have black Friday?

Let's not bring race into it.

 

[Richard Harrow]

Do we still have black Friday?

No mention of holidays in either the NMA or supplement documents that I was sent.

I found that odd.

Anyway, we will almost certainly still be working under the 2013-18 agreements by Black Friday 2018, so as a 177 driver, I'll be off that day.

 

[ManInBrown]

Just cast my vote as well

Big fat NO on the master

you Taylor

 

[upschuck]

No mention of holidays in either the NMA or supplement documents that I was sent.

I found that odd.

Anyway, we will almost certainly still be working under the 2013-18 agreements by Black Friday 2018, so as a 177 driver, I'll be off that day.

That means everything else stays the same.