FedEx Ground

[It will be fine]

Your "business" is all dependent on what direction FDX decides to go in and you basically react to their operational decisions. The only way you can scale your business is if your service area grows or by acquiring more routes both being at the control and discretion of FDX. So your "business" is essentially a cost center. You can increase your bottom line only by controlling your costs not by offering attractive tariff rates or drumming up sales etc.
I say the best you can do is use this steady stream cash flow to fund another business so that you won't depend or be at the mercy of managers who really don't understand your "business"

My business has grown 10-20% annually for over a decade.

 

[bbsam]

My business has grown 10-20% annually for over a decade.

And about 80% in the past 3 months.

 

[Cactus]

And about 80% in the past 3 months.

You must be filthy rich.

 

[bbsam]

You must be filthy rich.

Nope. But not complaining.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Nope. But not complaining.

Just filthy?

 

[XEQaF]

A DQd driver trying to take FedEx to court would get tossed quickly. It would take some deep pockets to fund that type of endeavor and there’s very little gain.

A driver that doesn’t show up won’t work for me and is easily replaced. This seems like a scale issue, when you operated each driver was vital to getting the job done daily. Once you get past that it’s a different perspective.

Depends on what kind of case they can argue and if the evidence wasn't there to support a third party termination of sorts. There could be a valid argument of human rights and preventing an individual to perform his livelihood for unfounded reasons. Just would seem like an interesting case. Deep pockets for sure. The only thing to gain would be a precedent and change.

I can understand your mindset re: employees. Agree when you have that part of the operation ticking then you don't spend much time on furthering it. My mindset is building a bulletproof team who support each other and grow as individuals. Those are the ones who will show up when you need a favor or who won't complain and abandon you for the next best thing

 

[XEQaF]

My business has grown 10-20% annually for over a decade.

Their business has grown 10-20% on an annual basis. What is your measure of growth? Volume? After tax profit? Purchasing power?
What percentage have your expenses grown in relation to this growth that you have to service?
Your Contractor Relations Specialist when selling the opportunity use the 10-20% growth annually to sell the routes. They aren't lying but that's where you have to understand the other factors of economics in that statement.
If volume declines 10-20% say, there's nothing you can do as a contractor to reverse that trend.

 

[bbsam]

Just filthy?

Mind? Yes. Not complaining.

 

[59 Dano]

If the ground contractor loses FedEx does he have a business?
Agreed, he still has trucks, his employees still have their uniforms, the contractor still owes outstanding payroll to his employees add to that unemployment if he cannot keep them employed.

It's still a business.

I'm only asking questions, I'm not planting my flag on either side.

One or two people here want so much for it not to be a business because of their own issues.

 

[bbsam]

It's still a business.



One or two people here want so much for it not to be a business because of their own issues.

Seems a strange thing to want.

 

[It will be fine]

Their business has grown 10-20% on an annual basis. What is your measure of growth? Volume? After tax profit? Purchasing power?
What percentage have your expenses grown in relation to this growth that you have to service?
Your Contractor Relations Specialist when selling the opportunity use the 10-20% growth annually to sell the routes. They aren't lying but that's where you have to understand the other factors of economics in that statement.
If volume declines 10-20% say, there's nothing you can do as a contractor to reverse that trend.

My measure is revenue. If you don’t think service impacts the volume in your area you’re crazy. Sophisticated shippers track on time service by zip code by carrier and adjust their shipping accordingly. Same thing with pickup volume, if you provide poor service you’ll lose customers. Pretending a contractor has zero impact on the business in their area is obviously false.

 

[floridays]

Same thing with pickup volume, if you provide poor service you’ll lose customers.

In your case, a FedEx contractor, you will not lose any customers, they (the shippers) aren't your customers.

These shippers have made their individual service agreements with FedEx, you aren't a party to their agreement.

You answer to FedEx, wholly, totally, no one else. A third party to your business can put your business in a world of hurt.

Run a test,
provide poor service, after their initial call to you, find out exactly who they address their concerns to. Find out exactly which party to their deal will reprimand YOUR business.

Your business exists at the pleasure of FedEX not those you portray your customers to be.

 

[bacha29]

Still cashing the checks from the successful guy that bought you out?

He's successful because he stays at the minimum Furthermore, unlike you he's not out there preying like a vulture on struggling contractors while hiding behind the shield of "business" in a pathetic effort to make it look just and honorable.

 

[It will be fine]

He's successful because he stays at the minimum Furthermore, unlike you he's not out there preying like a vulture on struggling contractors while hiding behind the shield of "business" in a pathetic effort to make it look just and honorable.

Cool. So you’re making money off the labor of other people that you’re not willing to do yourself. Does your hypocrisy bother you at all?

 

[bacha29]

Did you contract without counsel?

XG as a matter of company policy refuses to negotiate with a contractors legal counsel. In the early days given that you had little money at risk you could simply walk away with minimal economic loss and thereby they couldn't be controlled. So many did walk away. Today with many times more money at risk a contractor has no greater access to due process now than he did back then but due to the fact that they have basically their entire future on the line XG enjoys an even higher degree of control then in prior years.

It's like a poker game where you put your money in the pot but you're not dealt a set of cards. You're not playing with the house money. The house is playing with your money. And not only is the house playing playing with your money every time it thinks that it's not going to win the hand it simply changes the rules to make certain that it will.

 

[floridays]

XG as a matter of company policy refuses to negotiate with a contractors legal counsel

You walk away then.

 

[bacha29]

Cool. So you’re making money off the labor of other people that you’re not willing to do yourself. Does your hypocrisy bother you at all?

The contractor who owns the contract is making the money. All he is doing is repaying me for giving him that opportunity he sought. In fact I and the other 2 guys gave every person who is currently there the chance to do the same by firmly opposing the decision the company made not just once but twice to close the terminal just as you're making money courtesy of the people who came before you established the operation worked tireless during those difficult early years and by doing so made things much easier for you today.

 

[It will be fine]

The contractor who owns the contract is making the money. All he is doing is repaying me for giving him that opportunity he sought. In fact I and the other 2 guys gave every person who is currently there the chance to do the same by firmly opposing the decision the company made not just once but twice to close the terminal just as you're making money courtesy of the people who came before you established the operation worked tireless during those difficult early years and by doing so made things much easier for you today.

You sold someone an asset you think is worthless and take money generated by the labor of someone else. That’s low. How do you sleep at night?

 

[bacha29]

You sold someone an asset you think is worthless and take money generated by the labor of someone else. That’s low. How do you sleep at night?

Wrong. This contractor unlike you doesn't sit on his rectum all day playing video games. He runs a route of his own everyday. He's the one repaying. When you're paying somebody (assuming that you can even get somebody to do it) to run high mileage, low stop long hour rural routes they don't make a damn thing but he had to have them just to meet the minimum requirements. Furthermore, the contractors who were going to remain already had enough routes but still wanted mine so they could force this kid to capitulate and go work for them. So this kid desperately needed my contract couldn't offer anywhere near what the others could, and couldn't get any financing . So as a simple matter of something called "fairness" I accepted his offer and 100% financing at a very attractive interest rate...... The lowest the law allowed at the time for an owner financed transaction

Now I realize that a person like you a person clearly only thinks about himself can't even conceptualize or relate to actions such as the one I took. it's just simply not part of your self serving conditioning so let me try to help you.

What I did is called giving a needy and deserving person what is commonly called a "break". He needed and was deserving of a break and a break is what i gave him. Something that a greedy, completely self serving person like you knows nothing about.

 

[It will be fine]

Wrong. This contractor unlike you doesn't sit on his rectum all day playing video games. He runs a route of his own everyday. He's the one repaying. When you're paying somebody (assuming that you can even get somebody to do it) to run high mileage, low stop long hour rural routes they don't make a damn thing but he had to have them just to meet the minimum requirements. Furthermore, the contractors who were going to remain already had enough routes but still wanted mine so they could force this kid to capitulate and go work for them. So this kid desperately needed my contract couldn't offer anywhere near what the others could, and couldn't get any financing . So as a simple matter of something called "fairness" I accepted his offer and 100% financing at a very attractive interest rate...... The lowest the law allowed at the time for an owner financed transaction

Now I realize that a person like you a person clearly only thinks about himself can't even conceptualize or relate to actions such as the one I took. it's just simply not part of your self serving conditioning so let me try to help you.

What I did is called giving a needy and deserving person what is commonly called a "break". He needed and was deserving of a break and a break is what i gave him. Something that a greedy, completely self serving person like you knows nothing about.

Lol! You sold him something you think is worthless and collect the profit of his labor. I love how you spin that into doing him a favor! You saddled him with debt and forced him to abide by a contract you think is unconscionable to pay you. You have no shame.