oldngray
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No need to. Maybe you should think more. Do you believe most of the evidence has been released to the public yet?
Gun control advocates in Ferguson MO
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No need to. Maybe you should think more. Do you believe most of the evidence has been released to the public yet?
Could the problems in Ferguson be coming from the top?
If it seems like the African-American community in Ferguson, Missouri is not crazy about Governor Jay Nixon (D-MO), a move he made as attorney general back in the early 1990's could be part of the problem.
As the Washington Post’s Philip Bump reported this week, one year after becoming Missouri’s attorney general in 1992 Nixon filed a motion to end St. Louis’ school desegregation program, claiming it was not cost effective.
Missouri Governor Jay Nixon Once Tried to End Desegregation of St. Louis Schools
If it seems like the African-American community in Ferguson, Missouri is not crazy about Governor Jay Nixon (D-MO), a move he made as attorney general back in the early 1990's could be part of the problem.
As the Washington Post’s Philip Bump reported this week, one year after becoming Missouri’s attorney general in 1992 Nixon filed a motion to end St. Louis’ school desegregation program, claiming it was not cost effective.
Missouri Governor Jay Nixon Once Tried to End Desegregation of St. Louis Schools
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Cliff Schecter
U.S. NEWS
08.19.14
Why Isn't the NRA Defending Ferguson’s Blacks?
Every dystopian warning of the gun group has come true in Missouri, yet the organization is offering no sympathy for the African American victims.
The National Rifle Association has been warning us about the threat of a heavily-armed and dangerous government crushing dissent for decades. Their leader, Wayne LaPierre, even referred to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms as "jack-booted thugs."
Their dystopian nightmare sounds exactly like what’s happening in Ferguson, Missouri.
Yet somehow, the NRA seems to have missed the whole thing with the SWAT teams and the tank-like vehicles and the snipers and the LRAD sound cannon and the tear gas and the rubber bullets being trained on unarmed Americans. Not a peep from LaPierre on this extended assault on citizens of Ferguson, at least that I can find.
If I were suspicious of their motives--and I am--I might point out that when I visited their 9 acres of militarized gun-fun also known as their convention in Indianapolis, I saw fewer black faces than in your average episode of The Dukes of Hazzard. I'd also point out that LaPierre blows just about every tune he knows on his dog whistle, when warning his membership of the horrors confronting them during this period when violent crime has fallen to its lowest level in a generation:
We don't trust government, because government itself has proven unworthy of our trust. We trust ourselves and we trust what we know in our hearts to be right. We trust our freedom. In this uncertain world, surrounded by lies and corruption everywhere you look, there is no greater freedom than the right to survive and protect our families with all the rifles, shotguns, and handguns we want. We know in the world that surrounds us there are terrorists and there are home invaders, drug cartels, carjackers, knockout gamers, and rapers, and haters, and campus killers, airport killers, shopping mall killers and killers who scheme to destroy our country with massive storms of violence against our power grids or vicious waves of chemicals or disease that could collapse our society that sustains us all.
Besides making you wonder who spiked his drink with goofballs, what jumps out about that friendly little harangue? Who do you think LaPierre's speech is meant for when he mentions "terrorists" and "drug cartels" and "carjackers" and "knockout gamers?" I promise you the hardcore gun fetishists he's preaching to are not picturing Eric Rudolph or George Jung.
If in doubt, the NRA's board can clarify the leadership’s view of the world. Burnt out rock n' roller Ted Nugent has referred to the "Dark Continent of Africa," and called President Obama “an avowed racist who claimed because Trayvon Martin was black…a gangster and an attacker and a doper, that he could have been his son."
Others among the grouphavesupported Apartheid, wished the South had won the Civil War and called African-American culture inferior
Others among the group have supported Apartheid, wished the South had won the Civil War and called African-American culture inferior, among other things. None have performed in blackface to my knowledge, but the decade is still young.
If I’m being unfair, then one must explain why there is nary a mention of Ferguson on the NRA's website either. Oh wait, I'm sorry, there is a link to an article on the spike in gun sales in the area because of the unrest (Not that they're celebrating that!). You can also find out how U.S. gun owners see some conspiracy in President Obama's sanctions on the Russian AK-47 and how a veteran got kicked out of Great Adventure in New Jersey for wearing a t-shirt that said "Keep calm and return fire." (They offered to let him in with a different shirt, but he refused.)
U.S. NEWS
08.19.14
Why Isn't the NRA Defending Ferguson’s Blacks?
Every dystopian warning of the gun group has come true in Missouri, yet the organization is offering no sympathy for the African American victims.
The National Rifle Association has been warning us about the threat of a heavily-armed and dangerous government crushing dissent for decades. Their leader, Wayne LaPierre, even referred to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms as "jack-booted thugs."
Their dystopian nightmare sounds exactly like what’s happening in Ferguson, Missouri.
Yet somehow, the NRA seems to have missed the whole thing with the SWAT teams and the tank-like vehicles and the snipers and the LRAD sound cannon and the tear gas and the rubber bullets being trained on unarmed Americans. Not a peep from LaPierre on this extended assault on citizens of Ferguson, at least that I can find.
If I were suspicious of their motives--and I am--I might point out that when I visited their 9 acres of militarized gun-fun also known as their convention in Indianapolis, I saw fewer black faces than in your average episode of The Dukes of Hazzard. I'd also point out that LaPierre blows just about every tune he knows on his dog whistle, when warning his membership of the horrors confronting them during this period when violent crime has fallen to its lowest level in a generation:
We don't trust government, because government itself has proven unworthy of our trust. We trust ourselves and we trust what we know in our hearts to be right. We trust our freedom. In this uncertain world, surrounded by lies and corruption everywhere you look, there is no greater freedom than the right to survive and protect our families with all the rifles, shotguns, and handguns we want. We know in the world that surrounds us there are terrorists and there are home invaders, drug cartels, carjackers, knockout gamers, and rapers, and haters, and campus killers, airport killers, shopping mall killers and killers who scheme to destroy our country with massive storms of violence against our power grids or vicious waves of chemicals or disease that could collapse our society that sustains us all.
Besides making you wonder who spiked his drink with goofballs, what jumps out about that friendly little harangue? Who do you think LaPierre's speech is meant for when he mentions "terrorists" and "drug cartels" and "carjackers" and "knockout gamers?" I promise you the hardcore gun fetishists he's preaching to are not picturing Eric Rudolph or George Jung.
If in doubt, the NRA's board can clarify the leadership’s view of the world. Burnt out rock n' roller Ted Nugent has referred to the "Dark Continent of Africa," and called President Obama “an avowed racist who claimed because Trayvon Martin was black…a gangster and an attacker and a doper, that he could have been his son."
Others among the grouphavesupported Apartheid, wished the South had won the Civil War and called African-American culture inferior
Others among the group have supported Apartheid, wished the South had won the Civil War and called African-American culture inferior, among other things. None have performed in blackface to my knowledge, but the decade is still young.
If I’m being unfair, then one must explain why there is nary a mention of Ferguson on the NRA's website either. Oh wait, I'm sorry, there is a link to an article on the spike in gun sales in the area because of the unrest (Not that they're celebrating that!). You can also find out how U.S. gun owners see some conspiracy in President Obama's sanctions on the Russian AK-47 and how a veteran got kicked out of Great Adventure in New Jersey for wearing a t-shirt that said "Keep calm and return fire." (They offered to let him in with a different shirt, but he refused.)
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
So releasing the liquor store video before the investigation was complete wasn't premature?
oldngray
nowhere special
DOJ said it was premature, yes. Ferguson did it to try to calm the riots but Holder didn't like it.
oldngray
nowhere special
Gun sales are way up from private citizens (many of whom are black) buying guns for protection from rioters (and not the police). The rioters were the problem and not the police. That liberal gun control blogger is just unhappy that the real world doesn't fit his biased views and using it as an excuse to attack the NRA.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
How'd that work out for em?
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
No, they new it would make things worse. It was premature.
oldngray
nowhere special
Worse because it contradicted the earlier statements of Brown being an innocent gentle teenager and not a criminal thug?
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
Regardless of what you think of the kid. It was premature, stupid, unprofessional, and insensitive to the family.
oldngray
nowhere special
The fact that civil disorder grew far worse in the wake of the video's release, and only 24 hours after relative calm when the Missouri highway patrol assumed jurisdiction over the case, has repeatedly been cited as evidence that putting the footage in the public domain was sheer folly.
What has been lacking from media analysis of the situation in Ferguson is a cool-headed appraisal for the actual reason that release of the video -- in response to FOIA requests from the media -- led to more violence and upheaval.
There is a misconception out there, until the video is released, the misconception is that a gentle giant (as Brown was initially described) was walking down the street, eager to start college classes, and a murderous racist white cop came up and for no reason, without much provocation, shot him. And then this video gets released on Friday and it shows that the gentle giant was not innocent. He had shoplifted. More information was added, not less. Nothing was changed, no lies had taken place, they just released a video and this is enough to cause looting and riots and so forth? Why? When are these looters and rioters going to figure out that all they got to do is move five or six blocks and they can destroy other people's stuff, instead of their own town.
But why would the release of the video -- now I'm talking about in a sane world -- why would more information, hey, this changes things a little bit. Because it destroyed the myth, folks! That's why, because it destroyed the myth, the phony narrative that had been created all week long, all of a sudden destroyed because now the gentle giant could no longer be seen the way he was originally portrayed.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-c...eo-it-destroyed-myth-about-mich#ixzz3AtKwQLc1
Not the police? Are you serious? What makes you think that?
oldngray
nowhere special
Despite claims from Sharpton it wasn't the police rioting and looting.
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Like people were going to say, look he's a criminal so it's okay for us to shoot him when he was surrendering.....
The facts aren't known yet as to if he was surrendering, but that's what the people protesting believe. To them the video didn't justify the execution they believe happened. They're angry that to some people the video makes it okay to dismiss the whole thing.
Ten days ago, a police officer shot and killed Michael Brown, in broad daylight. Since then, the world has watched a community become engulfed in grief, anger, fear and at times violence.
For a family mourning the loss of a son, it has been a profound personal tragedy. For Ferguson and our entire nation, it has ripped open old wounds that have festered for generations, and exposed difficult issues that communities across our country must still resolve.
But amid all the pain and distrust and anger, we’ve also seen tremendous acts of grace, courage, and kindness as the people of Ferguson try to maintain peace, while they call for justice for the family of Michael Brown. In Ferguson, people of all races and creeds are joining hands to pray for justice. Teenagers cooking meals for law enforcement officers. Community leaders demonstrating courage and heroism throughout the night in standing against armed and violent instigators. Volunteers coming out to pick up littered neighborhoods.
They are the faces of Ferguson. They are the faces of this region. They are the faces and soul of Missouri.
For them, for the family of Michael Brown, for all the parents who have had their sons taken from them much too soon, and for all the children dreaming of a brighter and better future, we now have a responsibility to come together and do everything we can to achieve justice for this family, peace for this community, and have the courage to address the problems that have divided us for too long. Real problems of poverty, education inequality, and race.
So how do we do that?
First, we must protect the people of Ferguson.
The officers of the Missouri Highway Patrol, St. Louis County, St. Louis City, and other jurisdictions are united in working valiantly to protect the public, while at the same time preserving citizens’ rights to express their anger peacefully.
As we’ve seen over the past week, it is not an easy balance to strike. And it becomes much more difficult in the dark of night, when organized and increasingly violent instigators take to the streets intent on creating chaos and lawlessness.
But we will not be defeated by bricks and guns and Molotov cocktails. With the help of peaceful demonstrators, pastors and community leaders, Captain Johnson and law enforcement will not give up trying to ensure that those with peace in their hearts are not drowned out by those with senseless violence in their hands.
Second, a vigorous prosecution must now be pursued.
The democratically elected St. Louis County prosecutor and the Attorney General of the United States, each have a job to do. Their obligation to achieve justice in the shooting death of Michael Brown must be carried out thoroughly, promptly, and correctly; and I call upon them to meet those expectations.
Finally, once we have achieved peace in Ferguson and justice for the family of Michael Brown, we must remain committed to rebuilding the trust that has been lost, mending what has been broken, and healing the wounds we have endured.
This is hard. Nothing about this is simple. We won’t always get it right, but we’re going to keep trying. Because Ferguson is a test, a test not just for the people of this community, but for all Americans. And it is a test we must not fail.
Last week I met with and prayed with the mother of Michael Brown. She has lost a son who she can never bring back. But what we can do is work together to ensure that Michael Brown’s death is not remembered as the tragedy that sparked a cycle of violence and distrust, but rather marks the beginning of a process of healing and reconciliation.
So I ask that we continue to stand together as we work to achieve justice for Michael Brown, restore hope and peace to the streets of Ferguson, and march together toward a future of greater opportunity and understanding for all of us.
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realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Not well. Too many fools like you in Ferguson that just like you, won't listen to reason.
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the grown ups are upstairs talking.... go back to the basement with your trollish intent to argue reason
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
90% of his posts have an insult in them. Has nothing to do with reason. You are defending a troll. He has a troll as his avatar and he is in the moderator's que for a reason.
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