Hallelujah, just the point I was making 30 pages ago. Drunks kill more innocent people than guns ever will, but that's ok.
As long as we ban those scary guns!
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As long as we ban those scary guns!
moreluck
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Glad I have already been boycotting Dennys for over a year now!
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I think we do attempt to ban drinking and driving don't we? And as far as guns go, I still haven't ever advocated banning any of them. Only the straw man argument that many put up around here. I'm not here to save the world. People are always going to kill. Why make it easy to increase the body count of a mad man.
according to your definition, I will point you no furtherthan several posts in this very thread.
There you go again. I'm not out to save the world. But Sandyhoo and Aurora were unacceptable. But again, here we are. Gun enthusiasts completely unable to address the problem any way but the way they always have. Same tired, crappy echo chamber of idiocy. Where's sober? He can usually be rational...when he's not taking the TOS bait.
Why not start with what will save more lives? We can save more innocent people if we could stop drunk driving.
Why in the world do we allow liquor to be served in restaurants and bars when we know everyone has to drive home after? It's a simple step that would save thousands of lives. Why does no one call for this?
I say we save more lives by taking on the bigger innocent people killer first, then we can move onto smaller things, like guns.
we do talk about that.
moreluck
golden ticket member
But Megan's Law deals with CONVICTED people......
Via Mediaite:
Via Mediaite:
Former Democratic New York City mayoral candidate Mark Green appeared on MSNBC’sHardball on Thursday where he advocated for the strictest of gun ownership laws. He said that there should be a registry where people can go to see if their neighbor is a gun owner, just as “Megan’s Law” allows for individuals to see if there is a convicted sex offender living in their neighborhood.
“If we have a Megan’s Law – because I think almost everyone might agree – that if you’re a convicted child molester, a neighbor might want to know that because they’re in your home, safe, but maybe they could hurt someone else,” Green said. “Same thing with guns.”
“If we have a Megan’s Law – because I think almost everyone might agree – that if you’re a convicted child molester, a neighbor might want to know that because they’re in your home, safe, but maybe they could hurt someone else,” Green said. “Same thing with guns.”
cachsux
Wah
As long as there's a registry of what neighbors have been diagnosed with mental illness as well. I'm not worried about my gun owning neighbors.
maybe folks could post their colonoscopy photos as well.
cachsux
Wah
And those who are going though a messy divorce. That group has a higher rate of domestic violence that spreads into the public.
I think we're onto something here.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
How soon can I get one ?Could be quite a few if some deranged "hammer-nut" got his hands on one of these.
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Is there a 10 day waiting period ?
wkmac
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That could provide real potential as a starting point for humor but something tells me in this place it will get real
pretty fast!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
"The video" could label it a freaking purple dinosaur for all I care, that doesnt change the REALITY of what the gun actually is.
The accurate definition of an "assault weapon" is a select-fire weapon with a short barrel that typically fires a pistol-caliber cartridge. Look it up. Any idiot can make a video and label a gun any way he wants to, just like any idiot can watch that video and believe whatever he wants to.
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soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
It really would be more accurate to say "gun banners completely unable to address the problem any way but the way they always have. Same tired, crappy echo chamber of idiocy."
Trying to prevent massacres by coming up with ever more gun laws is like trying to cure obesity by banning forks. It doesnt work. Want proof? Look at the gun murder rates in Chicago or Washington DC or Los Angeles...all areas with draconian gun regulations...compared to places like Arizona or Vermont, which have far less restrictive laws and which also allow concealed carry without a permit.
If we are serious about preventing massacres then the first thing we need to do is be rigorously honest about the complete and utter failure of so called "gun free zones" to keep our children safe. Bans, restrictions, registration, waiting periods and other forms of liberal, feel-good wishful thinking are not the answer and never will be.
Not really. You've set up the same "either or" scenario. It doesn't have to be that way. You could easily have both real push for revamping mental health policies and increased "gun free zones". But I agree, such zones do little. So what? So they get a "feel good"? So what? Why intensify that fight if the real solution lies in mental health? In fact, I don't hear any of the "liberals" that you insist are your foe in this discussion being anti-mental health reform. So explain to me why the insistance that one thing has to come before another? Perhaps it is inconvenient for some gun owners. I doubt that it's unconstitutional but if it is the courts can fix that.
How the hell do you compare LA, Chicago, and DC with Vermont and AZ? Not even close to the same. I go back to what I've said before. Triple the number of guns in Chicago, and you will not see gun violence decrease because as you have pointed out, it's not about gun control, it's about mental health. As one who has frequented Chicago, mental health in an inner city is not conducive to further arming in my opinion.
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