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[moreluck]

Different time, different place. Charlie got himself invited in to that circle. Who knows? They may have had guns of their own without the opportunity to use them.

Charlie was friends with music people (he thought)...Terry Melcher (Doris Day's son) and one of the Beach Boys. He was a kook and they tried to 'let him down' easily.
Charlie was not even good enough for the D-List people!!

 

[bbsam]

He didnt get invited. The Family members cut the phone lines and broke thru the gate in order to get to the house, and they were armed only with knives and a single .22 pistol. The victims were, of course, unarmed. Living in a swanky, jet-set community with a gate didnt keep them safe from the bad guys, despite TOS's assertions to the contrary.

New book on Charlie says otherwise. He was going to be a rock star...or Jesus. He wasn't unknown. Washed up but not unknown.

 

[bbsam]

Charlie was friends with music people (he thought)...Terry Melcher (Doris Day's son) and one of the Beach Boys. He was a kook and they tried to 'let him down' easily.
Charlie was not even good enough for the D-List people!!

True. But hard partying charismatics charmed many in the day.

 

[wayfair]

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it." -William Burroughs.

 

[The Other Side]

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it." -William Burroughs.

Its the future "we" are worried about, not the past. We already know who the moronic gun owners are who kill people, but "we" dont know what will trigger the next shooter who kills his own family.

It all begins with the purchase of the gun however.

TOS.

 

[soberups]

New book on Charlie says otherwise. He was going to be a rock star...or Jesus. He wasn't unknown. Washed up but not unknown.

The relevant point here is that (a) all the victims of the Family were unarmed when they were murdered, (b) living in a wealthy, "safe" neighborhood didnt prevent them from being murdered and (c) having a gate didnt prevent them from being murdered. They adhered to TOS's personal safety philosophy down to the letter and got hacked to pieces as a result. The only thing missing was a "no guns allowed" sticker on the front door.

 

[Rainman]

Its the future "we" are worried about, not the past. We already know who the moronic gun owners are who kill people, but "we" dont know what will trigger the next shooter who kills his own family.

It all begins with the purchase of the gun however.

TOS.

The past repeats itself over and over and over. Technology changes, but human nature never does. "Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."

 

[rod]

I live too far out of the city for this scenario to transpire. I make good decisions.

TOS.

I bet that is the way the Clutters felt even way back then. There is NO such place as "too far out".

 

[Babagounj]

I would feel safer if you simply took your guns to the local police department and ask them to destroy them.. Then, move to a safer neighborhood and enjoy the ultimate freedom of walking in this country without fear.

TOS.

Where do you think I got most of my guns ?
From my local police dept auction , of course .

 

[Babagounj]

Its the future "we" are worried about, not the past. We already know who the moronic gun owners are who kill people, but "we" dont know what will trigger the next shooter who kills his own family.

It all begins with the purchase of the gun however.

TOS.

Some guns are passed down thru the family , so "purchase " may not apply .

 

[bbsam]

The relevant point here is that (a) all the victims of the Family were unarmed when they were murdered, (b) living in a wealthy, "safe" neighborhood didnt prevent them from being murdered and (c) having a gate didnt prevent them from being murdered. They adhered to TOS's personal safety philosophy down to the letter and got hacked to pieces as a result. The only thing missing was a "no guns allowed" sticker on the front door.

Not to be difficult, but were they unarmed? I don't recall ever hearing that detail and it's possibless th Manson family overpowered the others before they could exercise their 2nd ammendment rights.

 

[wayfair]

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud.

 

[moreluck]

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud.

Boy, that sure sounds spot on!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I wonder how many of your rural neighbors have guns to protect themselves from you ?

NONE. This is a gun free zone.

How is that ?

Does the constitution cease to exist.... where you are at ?

Or, are you talking about your own property ?

Help me out.

If you need some time to answer my question.... I can wait.

Its the future "we" are worried about, not the past. We already know who the moronic gun owners are who kill people, but "we" dont know what will trigger the next shooter who kills his own family.

It all begins with the purchase of the gun however.

TOS.

Read an interesting "description" of a anti-gun, anti-hunter, type person.

Their line of thinking borders on hysteria.


The common traits were:

1.) anti-christian

2.) anti-male

3.) anti-freedom.

And, being all those.... probably anti-American.


Food for thought.

 

[Babagounj]

Mental Health Issues Put 34,500 on New York’s No-Guns List
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/n...put-34500-on-new-yorks-no-guns-list.html?_r=2
Mental health professionals and advocates point out, however, the vast majority of people with mental illnesses are not violent. Accurately predicting whether someone will be violent, they said, is also a highly fraught process.

 

[jr32bad]

Forgot about Baltimore MD. They have a rat fishing club. Check YouTube fun way to get rid of them

 

[wayfair]

" ... the right to defend one's home and one's person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law." -Martin Luther King.

 

[bbsam]

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" ... the right to defend one's home and one's person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law." -Martin Luther King.

As it should be. Unfortunately, too often murderers hide behind flimsy claims of self defense. You aren't suggesting we ignore justice, are you? It's not like both rights can't be pursued.

 

[bbsam]

If you need some time to answer my question.... I can wait.




Read an interesting "description" of a anti-gun, anti-hunter, type person.

Their line of thinking borders on hysteria.


The common traits were:

1.) anti-christian

2.) anti-male

3.) anti-freedom.

And, being all those.... probably anti-American.


Food for thought.

Do you realize how worthless that is? "Christian, male, freedom" could apply to anyone from MLK to the Grand Dragon of the KKK, to Adolf Hitler himself.

 

[wayfair]

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” -Adolf Hitler.