New Social Security bill

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You were an entirely different party when Social Security was created. And for the millionth time, it's social insurance. You benefit greatly from capitalism but want full blown socialism. For some odd reason you believe life will be great when we all have equal outcomes and a government that insures that. Has never worked. Look at bbsam. He's hot for socialism but he won't set an example by paying his employees the same as him. I could go the same route as you and say you, he, and the rest are a bunch of hypocrites. The fact is we're all struggling to get by but it's better than having nothing at all with no real incentives to achieve and do better for ourselves. This utopian fantasy of your's is dangerously close to being implemented because our future leaders are being indoctrinated. And when it goes to hell what then?
You see that last sentence clearly discloses your worries. Face it you're not well enough off or secure enough economically not to be facing the likelihood that you will in the end become quite dependent on government managed programs that are very rich in socialist ideology but will do quite nicely indeed when it comes to your ability to deal effectively with the ravages of ageing. If it wasn't then why do they called it SOCIAL Security? "Social Insurance" LMAO For people like you and OMJ "social insurance" is a social program designed to provide for you welfare but the ones that don't are pure evil. Why? Because with them it's socialism. You're not fooling anybody . You're scared to death that the social programs YOU will be counting on are not going to be there. Demonizing the ones you won't qualify for will do nothing to secure the continued availability of the ones you know you'll be dependent on.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You see that last sentence clearly discloses your worries. Face it you're not well enough off or secure enough economically not to be facing the likelihood that you will in the end become quite dependent on government managed programs that are very rich in socialist ideology but will do quite nicely indeed when it comes to your ability to deal effectively with the ravages of ageing. If it wasn't then why do they called it SOCIAL Security? "Social Insurance" LMAO For people like you and OMJ "social insurance" is a social program designed to provide for you welfare but the ones that don't are pure evil. Why? Because with them it's socialism. You're not fooling anybody . You're scared to death that the social programs YOU will be counting on are not going to be there. Demonizing the ones you won't qualify for will do nothing to secure the continued availability of the ones you know you'll be dependent on.
Humans have lived and died for thousands of years without cradle to grave management of their lives by those who think they know better. In the end we're dead and no one escapes it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You see that last sentence clearly discloses your worries. Face it you're not well enough off or secure enough economically not to be facing the likelihood that you will in the end become quite dependent on government managed programs that are very rich in socialist ideology but will do quite nicely indeed when it comes to your ability to deal effectively with the ravages of ageing. If it wasn't then why do they called it SOCIAL Security? "Social Insurance" LMAO For people like you and OMJ "social insurance" is a social program designed to provide for you welfare but the ones that don't are pure evil. Why? Because with them it's socialism. You're not fooling anybody . You're scared to death that the social programs YOU will be counting on are not going to be there. Demonizing the ones you won't qualify for will do nothing to secure the continued availability of the ones you know you'll be dependent on.
Exactly what programs am I condemning anyways? All I've ever said is we can't afford to keep spending like we have.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Humans have lived and died for thousands of years without cradle to grave management of their lives by those who think they know better. In the end we're dead and no one escapes it.
When you're old and out of money you'll be happy with whatever management that can assist you with what old age has blessed you with regardless of where it comes from .
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
When you're old and out of money you'll be happy with whatever management that can assist you with what old age has blessed you with regardless of where it comes from .
Why would I be out of money? I'm taking SS at 62 and putting it all in savings until my company pension drops to nothing at 67. Will have savings plus SS and realistically won't live to 80. Lucky to make 75.
 

bacha29

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Exactly what programs am I condemning anyways? All I've ever said is we can't afford to keep spending like we have.
And a real testament to your conviction that we spend too much would be for you not to accept old age program benefits or other similar programs with origins that would appear to be socialist in design. Man up and back your convictions with concrete actions.
 

vantexan

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And a real testament to your conviction that we spend too much would be for you not to accept old age program benefits or other similar programs with origins that would appear to be socialist in design. Man up and back your convictions with concrete actions.
Sure, just as soon as you move to Venezuela to enjoy the socialist paradise.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
And a real testament to your conviction that we spend too much would be for you not to accept old age program benefits or other similar programs with origins that would appear to be socialist in design. Man up and back your convictions with concrete actions.
See atleast you’re stupid enough to believe in socialism.

Vantexan is just delusional.

It’s not socialist—

iTs sOciAl InSuRAnCe
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And a real testament to your conviction that we spend too much would be for you not to accept old age program benefits or other similar programs with origins that would appear to be socialist in design. Man up and back your convictions with concrete actions.
And P.S. Social Security isn't adding to the deficit.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Van knows he is supporting a terrible socialist programs because it directly benefits him.

The proper stance is I hate social security, it robbed me my entire life, but I just want some of my money back.

Van sits there and defends it like it’s some great program we all desperately need and want.
 
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