Peak 2017

[floridays]

I saw a story today on CBS This Morning. Illegal immigrant rode a freight train to America when he was young. Lived on the streets and worked odd jobs. Got a job as a bus boy and worked his way up to server at a restaurant. Sent himself to culinary school and now he owns 8 restaurants in Houston. He also learned the language and became a citizen. He said he wasn't gonna give up and wasn't gonna stop working until he succeeded.

Will and desire.

Admirable, minus the illegal status. Hopefully he will rectify his situation.

 

[Oldfart]

Admirable, minus the illegal status. Hopefully he will rectify his situation.

Already has. He became a citizen, got married and has a family.

Will and desire.

 

[Oldfart]

Everyone of those success stories had help along the way. The sad truth is your anecdotal success stories are just another attempt to distract from the real issues of our society.

The real issues of our society. Society is full of lazy and people unwilling to make the efforts to better themselves.

 

[floridays]

Already has. He became a citizen, got married and has a family.

Will and desire.

Excellent. A success story that many say is not possible. Only in America.

 

[59 Dano]

Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

The crap attitudes, criminal activity, laziness, and so forth.

 

[59 Dano]

Disagree, it's not an income problem, it's a cultural problem. Often the two are intertwined, but some of the least fortunate (income wise) are the most polite and well reared citizens. It's a problem of culture not wealth.

I'm talking about in general. People who are not well-behaved, not eager to learn, etc. often end up poor. There are plenty of polite poor people. There are many more who are just plain screwups.

 

[floridays]

Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

The chicken, God made animals. So easy, was that a legitimate question?

 

[floridays]

The crap attitudes, criminal activity, laziness, and so forth.

You addressed his question from a different angle, I think we're both correct.

 

[floridays]

I'm talking about in general. People who are not well-behaved, not eager to learn, etc. often end up poor. There are plenty of polite poor people. There are many more who are just plain screwups.

Agreed.

 

[MAKAVELI]

The crap attitudes, criminal activity, laziness, and so forth.

Those are symptoms of a failed society, which came first.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Poor people as a whole are not known as a well-behaved group of people who are eager to learn and grow.

Jesus said that I think.
What verse is that?

 

[Oldfart]

Those are symptoms of a failed society, which came first.

Just because some of society has failed doesn't mean the individual has to.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Too many stories of uneducated and self taught people who have succeeded and become wealthy and successful individuals prove you wrong.

Your fallacy is anecdotal.
Try again.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Just because some of society has failed doesn't mean the individual has to.

Sh* rolls down hill. Real leaders take responsibility.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The real issues of our society. Society is full of lazy and people unwilling to make the efforts to better themselves.

Said every old man of the past 10000 years.

 

[floridays]

Those are symptoms of a failed society, which came first.

Those are attributes that cause a society to fail. You fail to place responsibility where it belongs. Always a blame game. It's never the problem may be "me."

 

[floridays]

Jesus said that I think.
What verse is that?

Do you know Jesus? A better question would be "Does Jesus know you?"

 

[Oldfart]

Your fallacy is anecdotal.
Try again.

You need to surround yourself with a better class of people and open your eyes. The world is full of people that started with nothing and became successful. Too bad your crowd hasn't followed that path.

You are judged by the company you keep. Apparently you have not been keeping company with people willing to better themselves with hard work and a can do attitude. Bummer

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Your fallacy is anecdotal.
Try again.

The world is full of people that started with nothing and became successful.

Are you having trouble with the word anecdotal, or fallacy? Maybe both?

 

[vantexan]

Said every old man of the past 10000 years.

Geez you must be ancient.