Peak 2017

[bacha29]

Not necessarily—-I have been able to get 3 of my helpers hired on a permanent basis. One is now a FT bid cover driver.

Your example is clearly the exception. Again that's UPS with your 30 and out pension plan . Likewise how many years as a helper did it take them to get there? No question that if they somehow had a way to survive during the other 11 months they might be able ride it out until they got on.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

30 and out is a thing of the past.

1 season each.

Two of them no longer work here.

 

[bacha29]

Around here if you're good during peak you'll have a full time job afterwards.

Sure, in your fast growing Boston metro area combined with the enormous turnover at XG the odds are without question much better but can you say that abouteverywhere else?

 

[bbsam]

Sure, in your fast growing Boston metro area combined with the enormous turnover at XG the odds are without question much better but can you say that abouteverywhere else?

We're always looking to upgrade.

 

[bacha29]

30 and out is a thing of the past.

1 season each.

Two of them no longer work here.

Your comment about 30 and out is interesting. Has it changed and in what manner? You would that your labor contract would try to protect that provision above all else.

 

[bacha29]

Your comment about 30 and out is interesting. Has it changed and in what manner? You would that your labor contract would try to protect that provision above all else.

...THINK that it would protect

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Your comment about 30 and out is interesting. Has it changed and in what manner? You would that your labor contract would try to protect that provision above all else.

Pension contributions are a contractual item, not when we are eligible to retire and start drawing.

 

[Cactus]

It seems like the perfect storm. 59% of holiday shopping is expected to be done online. Temporary workforce has been impossible to find. The company has refused to hire their own temps. All competitors facing the same conditions of over-worked and under-staffed.

Gonna be a bad peak.

This won't help either...if it happens. Glad I'm out.

UPS close to a pilots’ strike

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Not gonna happen.

 

[Cactus]

Not gonna happen.

Your sources? Are you on the arbitration board?

 

[bacha29]

Pension contributions are a contractual item, not when we are eligible to retire and start drawing.[/QUOTE Isn't yours are defined benefit plan whereby your monthly benefit maxes out after 30 years of service and you can begin drawing as early as age 55?

 

[bacha29]

Not gonna happen.

White House intervene within a matter of hours. Still after all this time it's quite clear that UPS will try to drag this matter out forever if they can.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yes but that is not 30 and out (at any age).

 

[floridays]

That's my exact point. It's contractors who get destroyed. When X took over for Roadway the fact that you as a contractor had to invest money in the venture ,that fact as well as the respect it was deserving of was the first thing to go among the missing and is a major contributing factor behind the scores of routes on the market with more going on everyday along with the price cutting we're beginning to see.

A big salute for being among the first class of lab rats.

 

[floridays]

It seems like the perfect storm. 59% of holiday shopping is expected to be done online. Temporary workforce has been impossible to find. The company has refused to hire their own temps. All competitors facing the same conditions of over-worked and under-staffed.

Gonna be a bad peak.

Not for you, you've contracted for 900 p&d stops daily. Sit back and watch the implosion.

 

[floridays]

I feel like this nothing new

If the date of Christmas wasn't changed each year a hump or suit could anticipate increased shipping.

 

[floridays]

Your example is clearly the exception. Again that's UPS with your 30 and out pension plan . Likewise how many years as a helper did it take them to get there? No question that if they somehow had a way to survive during the other 11 months they might be able ride it out until they got on.

They can, it's called welfare in it's many forms.

 

[floridays]

30 and out is a thing of the past.

1 season each.

Two of them no longer work here.

Why is 30 and out a thing of the past? This is a legitimate question.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Why is 30 and out a thing of the past? This is a legitimate question.

Pension funding issues.

 

[floridays]

Pension funding issues.

Have always been funding issues, not just the amount, but where the pension money was invested. With the statement you made, I conclude that every Ups future and current pensioner should be skeptical about UPS's ability to perform.