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Doublestandards

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I said unions should be on a case by case basis and you called me a bootlicker. Out of curiosity are the Teamsters being threatened by right to work policies at UPS?
Unions were a major factor in companies relocating overseas. Those right to work states make it possible for manufacturing to come back and provide good, much needed jobs.
I should have been more specific, this is what I was referring to as bootlicker nonsense
 

rickyb

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I've never had a union job and am retired now. Can't imagine the Teamsters saying anything else. But if you think every job should be unionized and all companies can afford to pay a lot more with great benefits but are just greedy, then you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the real world. Some companies absolutely should be unionized but not most.
i guarantee you most companies should be unionized and corporations are having record profits so its not exactly hard times. it might be hard times for small business but not big business

in some countries most companies ARE unionized. iceland is pushing 90% and theyre a superior country to north america.
 

rickyb

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Listen to what you're saying. They'll have to flip their state. Of course. That's the democratic process. Majority rules. You seem to think it's unfair that you don't get what you want in a state where the majority wants something else. Seems that's often the case that liberals think they should get their way even if they're in the minority. And if they can't get their way then they want to change the rules. Stack SCOTUS, create new states, import millions of potential voters. All about getting your way.
you dont have majority rule, you have electoral college
we dont have proportional representation either.
 

vantexan

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you dont have majority rule, you have electoral college
we dont have proportional representation either.
Electoral College is only for presidential elections. And our majorities elect representatives who advocate policies we want. Yes, I know, we have corrupting influences too.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
Listen to what you're saying. They'll have to flip their state. Of course. That's the democratic process. Majority rules. You seem to think it's unfair that you don't get what you want in a state where the majority wants something else. Seems that's often the case that liberals think they should get their way even if they're in the minority. And if they can't get their way then they want to change the rules. Stack SCOTUS, create new states, import millions of potential voters. All about getting your way.
Majority doesn't always rule.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
Not if liberals in the minority get their way.

Florida Amendment 4. Creates a constitutional right to abortion.​

Candidate Percent Votes
Yes 57.2% 6,070,758
No 42.8% 4,548,379
Certified results shown • Last updated: Nov. 19, 2024 at 11:36 a.m. CT
This measure must win at least 60% of the vote to pass.

I don't believe the liberals set the 60% threshold.
 

Thebrownblob

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Florida Amendment 4. Creates a constitutional right to abortion.​

Candidate Percent Votes
Yes 57.2% 6,070,758
No 42.8% 4,548,379
Certified results shown • Last updated: Nov. 19, 2024 at 11:36 a.m. CT
This measure must win at least 60% of the vote to pass.

I don't believe the liberals set the 60% threshold.
Voters chose to do this.

“In 2006, Florida voters passed a constitutional amendment to raise the threshold to pass constitutional amendments from 50% to 60%.”

 

vantexan

Well-Known Member

Florida Amendment 4. Creates a constitutional right to abortion.​

Candidate Percent Votes
Yes 57.2% 6,070,758
No 42.8% 4,548,379
Certified results shown • Last updated: Nov. 19, 2024 at 11:36 a.m. CT
This measure must win at least 60% of the vote to pass.

I don't believe the liberals set the 60% threshold.
See, only a liberal would complain about the process and want it changed in their favor. Florida requires the 60% threshold for all amendments to pass. It's to avoid the tyranny of the minority, no matter what the issue is. In other words if it only took say 51% to pass then amendments would be constantly voted on for every issue by every imaginable group who think they may have a shot.
 

BigUnionGuy

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Integrity

Binge Poster
The Bible is the written word of God, and because it is written it is confined and
limited by the necessities of ink and paper and leather. The Voice of God,
however, is alive and free as the sovereign God is free.
"The words that I speak
unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
" The life is in the speaking words.
God's word in the Bible can have power only because it corresponds to God's
word in the universe. It is the present Voice which makes the written Word all-
powerful. Otherwise it would lie locked in slumber within the covers of a book.

Tozer, The Pursuit of God, page 43
 

vantexan

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i guarantee you most companies should be unionized and corporations are having record profits so its not exactly hard times. it might be hard times for small business but not big business

in some countries most companies ARE unionized. iceland is pushing 90% and theyre a superior country to north america.
Iceland has less people than even Wyoming, our least populated state. Can you name the large unionized companies in Iceland?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Yea it does. You make excuses about americas size but europe is 700 million. America used to have 33 percent
I asked you to name Iceland's big unionized companies and you started talking about the EU. And I've never talked about America's size compared to the EU per unions. Totally irrelevant. I've pointed out that the U.S. has a much larger area and much less people than Europe so the kind of transportation you're wanting wouldn't work in the U.S. except in some crowded areas like the Northeast.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
This universal Voice of God was by the ancient Hebrews often called Wisdom,
and was said to be everywhere sounding and searching throughout the earth
seeking some response from the sons of men. The eighth chapter of the Book of
Proverbs begins, "Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?"
The writer then pictures wisdom as a beautiful woman standing “in the top of the
high places, by the way in the places of the paths”. She sounds her voice from
every quarter so that no one may miss hearing it. "Unto you, O men, I call; and
my voice is to the sons of man” Then she pleads for the simple and the foolish
to give ear to her words. It is spiritual response for which this Wisdom of God is
pleading, a response which she has always sought and is but rarely able to
secure. The tragedy is that our eternal welfare depends upon our hearing, and we
have trained our ears not to hear.

A. W. Tozer, The Pursuit of God, Christian Publications 1982,1993, page 70,71
 
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