Unionizing

[davburke]

How likely is it for employees to get fired for an unsuccessful attempt to unionize?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Are you with SCS?

 

[davburke]

What is that?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Supply Chain Solutions

What part of the operation are you involved with?

 

[davburke]

I'm not. I'm interested in becoming an organizer for the Teamsters

 

[Lead Belly]

How likely is it for employees to get fired for an unsuccessful attempt to unionize?

It's very likely. If the organizing efforts do happen the employers usually retaliate. Hell they retaliate while it's going on too.

 

[Lead Belly]

I'm not. I'm interested in becoming an organizer for the Teamsters

Being an organizer is a very very hard job. The fruits of your work can be very rewarding but it's almost never going to pay as well as being a full time ups driver.

 

[barnyard]

Guy at Spee Dee delivery was illegally fired for helping the union. The union helped with an attorney, but it still took over 3 years for the case to wind through the courts and settle.

 

[Brown Spider]

How likely is it for employees to get fired for an unsuccessful attempt to unionize?

It's very likely. The employer will often hire a union busting law firm to identify union sympathizers and make sure they're not around when the vote to unionize takes place. The job of an Organizer is not just difficult...it's gut wrenching. You'll see the most trusted employees, those that you've counted on as inside leaders, terminated or terrified to continue with the campaign. Organizing may be the most difficult job in the union. If you're involved in collective bargaining, you've pretty much got a level playing field with the employer. They can play hard ball, but so can you. If you're involved in grievance representation or the arbitration process, you've still pretty much got that level playing field. As an Organizer, you're relying on a workforce that is subject to a hell of a lot of pressure to just walk away. Pressure from the employer, their anti-union co-workers and quite often their wives and families. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Organizers but I just can't imagine going through a campaign where so much is lost in the process of trying to do the right thing. The best Organizers are a very special breed, but they don't age well. I'd give it a lot of thought if I were you, talk to some Organizers who have been around, and read "Confessions Of A Union Buster" by Marty Levitt. Good Luck.

 

[Lead Belly]

It's very likely. The employer will often hire a union busting law firm to identify union sympathizers and make sure they're not around when the vote to unionize takes place. The job of an Organizer is not just difficult...it's gut wrenching. You'll see the most trusted employees, those that you've counted on as inside leaders, terminated or terrified to continue with the campaign. Organizing may be the most difficult job in the union. If you're involved in collective bargaining, you've pretty much got a level playing field with the employer. They can play hard ball, but so can you. If you're involved in grievance representation or the arbitration process, you've still pretty much got that level playing field. As an Organizer, you're relying on a workforce that is subject to a hell of a lot of pressure to just walk away. Pressure from the employer, their anti-union co-workers and quite often their wives and families. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Organizers but I just can't imagine going through a campaign where so much is lost in the process of trying to do the right thing. The best Organizers are a very special breed, but they don't age well. I'd give it a lot of thought if I were you, talk to some Organizers who have been around, and read "Confessions Of A Union Buster" by Marty Levitt. Good Luck.

Great post

 

[Lead Belly]