DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
Why does your local think they get to decide that?
Vaccine mandate
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MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
They don’t. It’s in the mandate.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
The mandate does not say UPS or teamcare cannot pay for the testing. That's why I'm asking you why your local thinks they can decide that issue.
Netsua 3:16
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Let me know when you get hosed down in the street or pulled over for no reason other than because you don’t have your vax
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
And we have no idea what the long term effects of the COVID vaccine are outside of it providing diminishing protection after 8 months or so. And do we know what the long-term effects of continued boosting are?
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
OSHA vaccine mandate has alternatives for coronavirus testing, but who pays?
The OSHA rules announced by the Biden administration allow employers to test their workers weekly if they refuse COVID-19 vaccines. But who pays?
www.usatoday.com
Wrong as usual. From the above article:
This much we know: The Occupational Safety and Health Administration rules announced on Thursday – which cover an estimated 84 million people – don't require employers to pay for the tests.
Will health insurance cover the cost?
No."That’s usually only paid for if medically necessary,” said Schinderle, who specializes in compliance issues.
Which means the employer or employee is “going to have to pay for this out of pocket," he said.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
What is YOUR local saying? Any idea???
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Well. We can very easily take a look at the ingredients in the vaccine and determine what we believe to be safe and not safe.
Which part of the vaccine is it that you believe will cause you long term harm?
Is it the antigens?
Is it the suspending fluid?
Which adjuvants are you concerned about?
I’d recommending asking these questions to your doctor.
Don’t trust your doctor?
Ask 20 doctors.
Don’t trust 20 doctors? Look at the statistics online.
Don’t trust the statistics online? Want to pay more attention to the Facebook Karen’s and substack conservative diaries?
Want to oppose 90% of the medical community? Go for it. It’s your free choice. Just know that in the real world, in society where commerce, independence and financial success; you will suffer consequences for opposing 90% of the medical community. It’s not because the man wants to hold you down. It’s reality waving it’s hands in your face begging you pay attention
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
Your article doesn't say a single thing about employers or insurance companies not being allowed to cover the cost.OSHA vaccine mandate has alternatives for coronavirus testing, but who pays?
The OSHA rules announced by the Biden administration allow employers to test their workers weekly if they refuse COVID-19 vaccines. But who pays?www.usatoday.com
Wrong as usual. From the above article:
This much we know: The Occupational Safety and Health Administration rules announced on Thursday – which cover an estimated 84 million people – don't require employers to pay for the tests.
Will health insurance cover the cost?
No.
"That’s usually only paid for if medically necessary,” said Schinderle, who specializes in compliance issues.
Which means the employer or employee is “going to have to pay for this out of pocket," he said.
You're certainly making your position clear though. So tell me why you think ups shouldn't cover the cost and why you think this isn't something the union should bargain for on behalf of it's members?
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Netsua 3:16
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Where did he say all that? He’s been nothing but moderate, passive and agreeable, yet you’re here trying to put words in his mouth as if he opposes your desire
Why?
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
You’re a good stew, man. You have your beliefs and remain steadfast, but in the name of the success of your guys you are making a serious effort to be considerate and neutral to all parties, even though you don’t have to at all. I admire it! We need more like you in every local
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
I admire your conviction in fighting a fabricated, imaginary battle against “the man;” but I also feel bad for the people around you who probably have to listen to this insufferable dribble all the time.
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Centuries of mistreatment of one specific demographic=I have to take a shot and I don’t want to
Oooooookkkkk guy
Bubblehead
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There was nothing requiring UPS to provide emergency paid leave (EPL), yet it was negotiated (a 10 day bank) in a MOU between the Company and the Teamsters.
UPS has and continues to need all hands on deck and can't afford to grant leave of absences or fire any of us over covid testing/vaccines.
Hell in many areas UPS has MRA's in place paying more than the contractual onus to part timers.
They will pay for the tests, just like they have paid for the masks, hand sanitizer, deep cleaning, etc.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that it likely wont be handled autonomously from local to local.
Whatever happens, which I still think will be nothing, will almost assuredly be done on the national level.
UPS has and continues to need all hands on deck and can't afford to grant leave of absences or fire any of us over covid testing/vaccines.
Hell in many areas UPS has MRA's in place paying more than the contractual onus to part timers.
They will pay for the tests, just like they have paid for the masks, hand sanitizer, deep cleaning, etc.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that it likely wont be handled autonomously from local to local.
Whatever happens, which I still think will be nothing, will almost assuredly be done on the national level.
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MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Ok unless it gets negotiated at a National level you think UPS will pay for testing??? My comments were from where we stand right now on the mandate and the companies stance. Oh sure, UPS cares that a free employees aren’t gonna get vaxed and pay for their testing. Like they care if you see your kids or work six punches all year. Right!!
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
If only I had a nickel for every time you complained about race discussion.
“OMG YOU BROUGHT UP RACISM YOURE WHINING!!”
Allow me to remind you that you decided to inject racial discussion into this vaccine discussion. That was your choice.
Let’s keep running in circles I’m game. Just watching football. I’m enjoying this
“OMG YOU BROUGHT UP RACISM YOURE WHINING!!”
Allow me to remind you that you decided to inject racial discussion into this vaccine discussion. That was your choice.
Let’s keep running in circles I’m game. Just watching football. I’m enjoying this
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
No. That's why I'm saying the union needs to negotiate over this in the unlikely event that the mandate isn't shot down by the supreme court.
Your comment was that your local has said that "neither the company or Teamcare will pay".
That's not an open ended "where we stand right now" statement. It's a total abdication of the responsibility of the union to negotiate for it's members.
Non sequitur
Well-Known Member
This politician is taking the middle ground. Maybe it would work.
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tadpole
Well-Known Member
Do you know how the mRNA vaccines work? As far as I understand, the concept is they found a way to trick the immune system. They encase the foreign rna in lipids (fats) because the body does not naturally want to let foreign substances give directions/commands on what the cells should do. If they're not encased in lipid particles, the immune system would kill the foreign substance immediately.
You have to trick the body to bypass it's natural protection from getting hijacked. For these vaccines, which hijack the body's cells to produce the spike protein. Which we know is what causes the illness of Covid. We also know that the spike protein does not stay in the injection site, but passes throughout the body and accumulates in the ovaries and elsewhere. I can't remember if it was the brain or heart but let's just say places of concern. How long and to what extent the body will produce the spike protein varies and is as I understand it, unpredictable.
So when people are feeling crappy after getting their shot, it may be that their bodies are dealing with the spike protein, and some people deal with it better than others.
I believe the FDA and CDC admit that there are risks of myocarditis. In many cases, that is severe heart inflammation that causes permanent damage to a young persons heart and a percentage of these will lead to eventual serious cardiac issues including death. So to expose kids to this vaxx when they already are unthreatened but Covid doesn't make a lot of sense.
For everybody else, make your own mind up if you want it or not.
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