burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
How come
Somepeoplecallyouthestig ?
Somepeoplecallyouthestig ?
Foamer Pyle
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How does Monkey Butt feel about my 3.87 college GPA?
clean hairy
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Orion is only as smart as those who program it.
Perhaps those with the 2.0 gpa programmed it?
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What The Hawk?
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Funny thing is the only reason I ever got C grades is because that's all my parents wanted. They wanted a passing grade. lmao
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Feel good!
What did you do with that investment?
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Became a delivery driver
Hahahhahahahabbahahaha
We have all sorts of cats with degrees
And one that didn't even graduate high school (look at a list of driver requirements to apply for driver hs diploma isn't a req)
I often think the guy with no diploma is the smart one
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
Got the best ROI for his investment it seems.
I firmly believe that anyone who is successful without the assistance of higher education is the smartest (whatever that means).
I would choose, amongst equally proficient people, the one with the least education to do the job. Inherently, it would seem they are more intelligent because they "learned" it all on their own ... no aids.
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I have been making an effort to follow Orion more closely lately, increasing my trace percentage to just over 90%. Their solution is starting to make more sense.
Ironically our newbies are having no problems with Orion because, as my on car said, they don't know any better.
Our flavor of the month is pickup compliance, which had been put on the back burner in favor of Orion trace. I will admit that it is very difficult to satisfy both metrics.
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Orion is only as good as the team that set it up
My Orion might not work as well as yours because my Orion team was a bunch of management shrills who could have cared less if Orion was set up to work on the route. They want you/the route to work for Orion, not for Orion to help the route.
One route I do wants me to do a when needed pick up at 1000am with my air
It's a 1630 pick up
Another route has a lot of finger streets (dead end).
So street a has a stop at the very end. Street B has one a the very beginning. Street c has one at the very end as well
Because Orion is an "as the crow flies" method I end up driving right by street B because the stop on street c is closer as the crow flies.
I also find they Orion does nothing for me on most routes that I have little area knowledge on.
You can't jump around from a to d if you have no idea where d is
And the rookies don't use Orion in my building Even they can see its crap
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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85% is the suggested trace percentage.
This means that if you have 100 stops you can "break trace" 15 times and still be OK.
This means that if you have 100 stops you can "break trace" 15 times and still be OK.
Catatonic
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One of my basic beliefs to change management is to bring in new people who don't know the old way.
This has become harder at UPS as we specialize our job responsibilities ... I always took pride in my width of knowledge (and made me humble to understand my lack of depth of knowledge).
People don't rotate through positions like they use to and tend to be myopic in their outlook and understanding.
I see that on Brown Cafe a lot ... drivers don't seem to be able to see beyond their own world.
When I think of UPS, I see a complex web and network of many people and processes it takes to get a package from Cairo, IL to Cairo, GA.
I feel lucky to have worked at UPS in the period I did.
Catatonic
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Dave,
I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet when Orion was implemented in your center, it was not that good.
I'm going to go further out on that limb, that you worked with the implementation team and followed up with your center team to try and make your route better.
Anything is only as good as one makes it be.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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My son recently "graduated" from a 3 year rotational training program (Graduate Development Program) and was offered a permanent position with his current employer. He rotated through 4 different areas within the company, including a stint in HR, before his accepting his operations position. He said the experience was invaluable.
Our new center manager is a 30 something kid with minimal practical experience who is being groomed in part by our much more experienced PDS.
Our new center manager is a 30 something kid with minimal practical experience who is being groomed in part by our much more experienced PDS.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You would be partly correct.
When we first got EDD we were asked to work closely with the implementation team to make sure our routes were where we wanted them to be. It was obvious from the results who put the effort in and who did not. Orion relies very heavily on EDD so it only stands to reason that a solid EDD will produce a higher trace % than a less solid one.
The frustrating part is that there could be as many as 7 different plans and changes made to one are not automatically made to the remaining 6.
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I don't have a problem with bringing new people in for management
I have a problem with excluding drivers from being promoted
There needs to be an equal balance of college and practical experience
Kind of like the E-9s in the military are as better educated with life experience then an 0-1.
But you need them both for it to work.
Drivers are now in a dead end job in which they are constantly
on by a kid who has no driving experience and couldn't meet the crazy demands he's placing on people.
One of our on roads took a route out 2 weeks ago with a pre loader
We're still asking his ETA.
(Just kidding took 40 from him and he was 2.5 hours over allowed, 30% Orion trace, and misses pick ups)
I have a problem with excluding drivers from being promoted
There needs to be an equal balance of college and practical experience
Kind of like the E-9s in the military are as better educated with life experience then an 0-1.
But you need them both for it to work.
Drivers are now in a dead end job in which they are constantly
on by a kid who has no driving experience and couldn't meet the crazy demands he's placing on people.One of our on roads took a route out 2 weeks ago with a pre loader
We're still asking his ETA.
(Just kidding took 40 from him and he was 2.5 hours over allowed, 30% Orion trace, and misses pick ups)
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Could myopic views be confused with DGAF views? I have had many ORS and PDS and center manager in my time here. Seems to be the younger and less experienced they are, the less inclined to fix problems (easily fixed problems) they seem to be. You are old school UPS, actually cared about each package and what we do, these new guys, not so much.
Catatonic
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How many drivers are willing to go into management these days?I don't have a problem with bringing new people in for management
I have a problem with excluding drivers from being promoted
There needs to be an equal balance of college and practical experience
Kind of like the E-9s in the military are as better educated with life experience then an 0-1.
But you need them both for it to work.
Drivers are now in a dead end job in which they are constantly
One of our on roads took a route out 2 weeks ago with a pre loader
We're still asking his ETA.
(Just kidding took 40 from him and he was 2.5 hours over allowed, 30% Orion trace, and misses pick ups)
Seems everyone has ideas but no one wants to fix it.
Have you considered going into management?
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Oh and I see the world outside of my cab
I keep telling people: "thank god ups is so diversified now. As long as I can retire before small package falls apart at least there will still be a company to pay my pension."
I keep telling people: "thank god ups is so diversified now. As long as I can retire before small package falls apart at least there will still be a company to pay my pension."
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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It was always amusing watching this interaction. 9 times out of 10 the O-1 would mistakenly salute the E-9.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Too many horror stories about being moved around as soon as your numbers don't add up.
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