No more 22.4s!

[TheCoverDriver]

What date did you start as a TCD?

June 2020

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

June 2020

So you'll either keep your current rate, or go up to the 3-year rate if it's higher, then top out next June.

 

[TheCoverDriver]

So you'll either keep your current rate, or go up to the 3-year rate if it's higher, then top out next June.

We won't know the 3 year rate til The new contract is intact correct? Or am I still going off the current contract 3 year rate?

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

We won't know the 3 year rate til The new contract is intact correct? Or am I still going off the current contract 3 year rate?

No idea until next week at the earliest. You'll always benefit from any improvements in language when in progression.

 

[TheCoverDriver]

No idea until next week at the earliest. You'll always benefit from any improvements in language when in progression.

Thanks for the info!

 

[anonymous23456]

They tried something like this many many years ago. Not that ambitious though.

Drivers will also need to be trained to cut/add routes. It isn't all about waking around telling people what to do.

 

[Upass.]

Well of course there will be a small number of cover RPCD that get the work when needed. The rest will get 0 hours until the realize it and quit months later. That's just how it works. Seniority rules. They aren't going to let you preload anymore for like $28 an hour as RPCD. They will just hire loaders or wait until you quit to rehire you for the part time hours. That's going to be the new reality. Basically like it used to be before 22.4. That's why corporate is agreeing to that.

It really depends on building , like my where I am right now , they use 22.4 like crazy and always they have work for them , it really depends

 

[Osubrownguy]

Nice.. but I do agree that most will still struggle to get hours… ups made to many people drivers during the covid volume numbers and there simply is not enough work . Layoffs will continue to happen but honestly they can’t be to mad. Most 22.4 in my building didn’t even put a year in the warehouse before getting a driver position.

 

[542thruNthru]

Looking forward to no more 22.4s. Happy to see I was wrong when I felt the company would never just give up 22.4s without a fight.

 

[TheCoverDriver]

Nice.. but I do agree that most will still struggle to get hours… ups made to many people drivers during the covid volume numbers and there simply is not enough work . Layoffs will continue to happen but honestly they can’t be to mad. Most 22.4 in my building didn’t even put a year in the warehouse before getting a driver position.

That just mean everyone gets off early with guaranteed 8 hours. RPCD don't have the option like 22.4s did that's why it was hard to file for guaranteed 8s because of combo position. RPCD on the other hand can easily grieve for 8

 

[DOK]

Yeah , now the loaders aren’t allowed to take the spa label off and place it so I can see it. SMH another dumb idea!

Why aren’t they allowed to remove pal labels and reposition them on the outside of the package?

 

[MECH-II]

Why aren’t they allowed to remove pal labels and reposition them on the outside of the package?

no idea

 

[GodlikeRage]

First, stop yelling.


To answer your question, unless they're topped out at 22.4, no. They'll go into progression wherever they currently land based on years. If they're a top rate 22.4, then yes, top driver rate.

So we'll still have a 4 year progression and not 2 years?

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Curious. Why the heck did UPS and Union create 22.4 in the first place? Now, you have to undo it and claim "progress". It is such a waste of energy.

Wasnt a waste on the investment of ups I believe it was a loop hole to pay drivers less instead of paying 30 bones plus an hour. TCD were almost non existent in my center once 22.4 popped up. They didn’t have bids to be a TCD and they sure as hell never had someone work inside for 3-4hrs and then go out and do a route. Yet we voted no on the 22.4 language and it still got pushed? That was under a different regime so hopefully obrien wont budge.

 

[charm299]

So we'll still have a 4 year progression and not 2 years?

There was never even a doubt that they weren’t changing progression

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

So we'll still have a 4 year progression and not 2 years?

What does the new contract read?

 

[Generic UPS Monkey]

Why aren’t they allowed to remove pal labels and reposition them on the outside of the package?

They're putting delicate microchips in every label that will sound off if a package is placed in the incorrect truck.

Better hope for a good loader who will write.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

It's silly, because if it's scanning the slap, it doesn't catch bad slaps. Just seems like a half ass effort.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

What does the new contract read?

It reads that we're supposed to use the homo ass trikes that this shill has been shilling

 

[DOK]

They're putting delicate microchips in every label that will sound off if a package is placed in the incorrect truck.

Better hope for a good loader who will write.

Have a feeling my loader will still peal the labels off.